I said Ian is doing 3" groups and that is par for him with his other stuff over iron sights. Hes only had it a couple of weeks but it is very popular down the club and he generously allows other to use it, something he cant do with his Taurus or Buckmark.

My best with cap n ball is 4" but my eyes only allow 3" over iron so the Patriot is not doing too bad.

They've stop production of the Patriot with intention to bring it out later in .38. The .32 is a bit feeble, breech pressures have to be kept down with smaller calibers, it only uses one grain of Bullseye.

I think people are reluctant to buy LBP LBR or the Patriot in case the Home Office get shirty about them. Its a lot of money that could be lost as they say there would be no compensation if they decide to disallow ownership.