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    spotting your shots and correcting.

    if you are shooting airguns or rimmies at long ranges spotting your shots can be hard. first off the holes made by airgun pellets are usually small and hard to spot. secondly most airgun pellets do not retain much energy as to signal an impact. yes FAC do retain energy however when i tried 30ft/lb version at 100+ the impact on stone is not very visible. if you are aiming at metal plates this is not much of a corcern as the hit on white is usually visible.

    there are alot of scopes with high mag out there however i found most of them to be somewhat poor at over 18x and i dont like much mag, usually more than 14 is not for me. since i got the menace i like to keep it on 10x because the reticle is calibrated at such. However i do find it hard to spot the shots. So i use a spotting scope.

    now i still don't have a mk4 spotting scope with mildot reticle or TMR so how do you tell accurately how much you are off. well here is a good procedure i use and this might recall how the military used the m144 spotting scope even though it had no reticle in it. it is not as good as the modern leupold spotting scope with reticle but here's how to use it.
    so imagine we are shooting at 100yards, far away for some..well we place a target that is 8"x8".
    this doesn't mean much and many always try to use inches or feet to direct someone on target.. well that is not good enough. a better way is to know the size of target in MOA or Mils(since your turrets are in these increments)

    so 8x8" target at 100yards is 8MOA, at 200yards its 4MOA etc. so we take a shot and we hit twice the size of the target and to the right. So we have to tell the shooter to "correct left" we know that if the target is 8MOA at 100yards, edge to center is 4MOA. if we hit twice the size of the target to the right we are 8MOA off(size of target) + 4MOA to get to the center of target. in this case we would have to adjust 12moa LEFT Windage(always dial into the wind). if you want to adjust in mils and hold off divide 12/3.45 = 3.5Mils. if you miss by far as in this case, dial in and dont hold off.

    the important thing in this exercise is to know the size of target or the range.

    If you dont know the size of target you can find it out by inverting the range finding formula.
    size of target in inches x 27.778/ size in mils = Range
    Eg
    Size of target = range x size of target in Mils (bracketed in reticle)/27.778

    once you know the size of target you can use it to correct. remember a 1 foot off at 100 is 12MOA at 200 its 6MOA etc.

    hope this helps you in correcting your shots and get on target with the second shot.
    please let me know if you do find it helpful, i am trying to get more people into the sport with a better approach to long range shooting.

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    interesting

    keep it coming the first shot first kill idea is interesting
    If i didnt have a Falcon i would have a Rapid

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    if you couple this up with the wind chart i posted about last time you have a90% chance of a hit if you do everything correctly. i say 90% because the wind usually changes and is not always consistant. every 1mile/hour wind effects airgun pellets at long ranges and it depends how well you read conditions.

    at the moment im very busy but in June i will have enough time on my hand and i will make videos of these procedures and upload them as usual. with practice you will be surprised how dead close you can get that little piece of lead even past 100 yards, if conditions are steady you can do some wonders and if you place a bet you can get a drink or two off your friends)

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    the biggest problem for us in the uk is sometimes the lack of space, i live in a residential area and usually have at best my backyard 20 yards to shoot in or the friends place which is about 40 -45 yards so the long range thing for me is only a wish and not always a reality. even getting the first shot to land in the right place in the back yard is hard sometimes always consider the first few shots as a warm up anyway
    If i didnt have a Falcon i would have a Rapid

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    ironically here the space i have is limited to only one range, this is actually the only range available on this little rock as regard airgun shooting and stretches about 190m from the farthest point and when i need to do this kind of long range drop chart i have to cordially ask the shooters to move back so that i can get a zero. there where lately some changes in the airgun hunting scene as apparently hunting rabbits with airguns is permissible on ones land.
    the biggest range is the 900m one is currently only available to the military and we cannot do any backyard trigger time, first off because land is so limited that you cannot have a backyard ala UK. someshooters travel to italy to get their rifles zeroed and the ranges they wish for so as you see in commercial terms this injects money in a foreign economy and leaves little gain to local shooting scenes. i wish i had access to such UK style ranges even if i have to travel a long time because as things are now, you have to fly to italy or Czech republic which seem to offer good capabilities at reasonable price.

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