Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
HW 70, HW 75: neglected stepchildren?
The HW 40 (sold in the US as the Beeman P3) and the HW 45 (Beeman P1, here) get a lot of comments and reviews but I see scant mention of their models 70 and 75.
I wonder why?
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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Don't know much about the 75 but I had a sneaking desire for a 70 - didn't get a very positive response.Originally Posted by Jim McArthur
The HW 40 (sold in the US as the Beeman P3) and the HW 45 (Beeman P1, here) get a lot of comments and reviews but I see scant mention of their models 70 and 75.
I wonder why?
Jim
Buried in the thread below is some feedback on the 70 where it doesn't compare well with a BSA Scorpion
http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258579
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Richard
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I think part of the problem with the HW75 is that it doesn' t fall neatly into any obvious category, being good quality, recoilless (apart from the hammer fall), potentially very accurate, and yet not an out-and-out target pistol. But, it's then too expensive to consider buying as "just" a plinker. And, it doesn't have the 45's big selling point, power.
I wonder if it was losing sales to the cheaper Gamo pistols, and also of course the Webley Nemesis, which prompted the development of the HW40?
By the way, I got one ten years ago - I still have it - when I joined a club and started shooting 10m pistol. I didn't like the club's Gamo Compact, but wanted something self contained (no CO2 or bottle to worry about). I bought the latest edition of either AG or AGW, to have a look at the adverts and get an idea of what was available, and there was an article on the HW75 which set me thinking about it.
Iain
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I have a 45 and a 40like to have a go with a 75 just to see what it handles like.As said previously it probally is a power issue for a pistol that looks like a 45 on steriods
may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
The HW70 is a very nice, very easy to use pistol which is extremely accurate considering it is a recoilling springer. Excellent trigger and nice clear sights.
It is not very powerful though and it does have a bit of a slippery grip, the latter can be cured fairly easily. I liked mine.
One of its great advantages is that it is a very quiet pistol, so you can use it on an indoor range in your apartment or house without the neighbours knowing. You cant do that with a pump-up, a single stroke pneumatic, a CO2 gun or a PCP.
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
Yes, it didn't seem to get a good review here.
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
Reminds me of a cartridge revolver I owned once, a K-frame Smith .357 with small grips and a 2 1/2 inch barrel with - get this! - adjustable sights!
I called it my "either-neither" pistol: too heavy and bulky for its ostensibly intended purpose of concealed carry: too hard to hold and sight for accurate use: just an odd duck!
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
Hmm....you might be selling me on my next pistol purchase, mate.
Sounds as though it's a great all-around choice: other than probably not being as good of a choice as an HW 45 or an EB 22 for a quick kill on an attacking tin can!
Jim
UBC's Police Pistol Manager
"Nasty, noisy things, revolvers, Count. Better stick to air-guns." Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure of the Mazarin Stone
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