Proposed change of targets for the UBC Competitions

[Pete R]

I was going to wait until I got home and then draft a reply talking about 6oClock point of aim and holding sight picture but I think that John's post above pretty much covers it.

I too would be happy to participate in a different competition using targets such as those suggested, it would even be an excuse to use a different pistol zeroed to point of aim at six yards.

Cheers

Pete

[Charlts]

Any chance of allowing scopes Pad? I don't mean rifle scopes with short eye relief, so you can shoot a pistol like a rifle, but handgun scopes where you have to hold it at arms length to see through the scope?

I really fancy entering but don't want to have to whip my scope off to re-zero every month and my eyes aren't good enough to focus open sights and a target until I get them lasered.

Ryan

[Pad. E]

Any chance of allowing scopes Pad? I don't mean rifle scopes with short eye relief, so you can shoot a pistol like a rifle, but handgun scopes where you have to hold it at arms length to see through the scope?

I really fancy entering but don't want to have to whip my scope off to re-zero every month and my eyes aren't good enough to focus open sights and a target until I get them lasered.

Ryan

Hi Ryan.

With the current comp it's only open sights, at first it was only one category until someone mentioned about different accuracies with different guns. So to keep the peace I split the categories up . I think allowing scopes would again open up a can of worms

However, if & if the consensus is to keep the comp as it is. I could do what Peter agrees's & do a side shoot. Now the side shoot could be an open category with whatever sights?

I think I should be a Diplomat

Regards
Paddy.

[Charlts]

Hi Ryan.

With the current comp it's only open sights, at first it was only one category until someone mentioned about different accuracies with different guns. So to keep the peace I split the categories up . I think allowing scopes would again open up a can of worms

However, if & if the consensus is to keep the comp as it is. I could do what Peter agrees's & do a side shoot. Now the side shoot could be an open category with whatever sights?

I think I should be a Diplomat

Regards
Paddy.

Good enough for me mate, I'll await the side shoot results.

Ryan

[eredel]

Hi Paddy...like John my pistols are sighted "below the black" (still shoot rubbish though ) that's why I prefer the original comp.
I do like the idea of the sideshoot though with various targets and it could be open to all pistols with any sighting arrangement providing it's arms length of course...I can then use my Falcon FN6 & red dot combo
More work for you though m8 so can understand you might not want another comp.
Regards....Eric.

[Phantom Sniper]

Hi Ryan.

With the current comp it's only open sights, at first it was only one category until someone mentioned about different accuracies with different guns. So to keep the peace I split the categories up . I think allowing scopes would again open up a can of worms

However, if & if the consensus is to keep the comp as it is. I could do what Peter agrees's & do a side shoot. Now the side shoot could be an open category with whatever sights?

I think I should be a Diplomat

Regards
Paddy.

I like the idea of that, 2 comps and the second with choice of sights

Tony.

[Target Bunny]

Pad.E
New target with ten cherries installed at link you've given. Never thought of it as a competition target.

Cookie
The original is now yours to keep. Make certain that you have the .PDF as I will shortly delete it from my files and go on to the new one.
Got this from Dragonsinger if you want a Christmas target. http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...massTarget.jpg You could also use this http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k.../OffCentre.jpg
or I could ask him to do a load of balls. These are tough targets since he only puts a 6.5mm bull on them

Let me know the result
Jim

[Pad. E]

Pad.E
New target with ten cherries installed at link you've given. Never thought of it as a competition target.

Let me know the result
Jim

Excellent. Thanks Jim.

That will make the comp scoring much easier.

I like these targets as they put abit of 'fun' into the equation

Not decided whether it will be running in the main comp, or do a side shoot (entails slightly more admin, but what the hell ).

Regards
Paddy.

[harvey_s]

Look at them crazy psychedelic ball things! - I am not shooting at anything that resembles a bad acid trip

[MikeB]

I'm up for leaving it as is but having another category for pistols with sights: that would give me the opportunity to use the recently neglected Nighthawk. Shame about the dreadful trigger, but I'm used to it now.

Not bothered whether it's a side shoot or a fifth category for sighted pistols only. Also not bothered about what targets we use, although the Target Bunny additions would certainly be a novelty and should keep the comp from going stale.

Here's another idea prompted by Snooper601's excellent advice on page 1 - how about a sticky for "Pistol Shooting Tips" that we could all add to and hopefully learn and improve from?

Edit: Whoops forgot to say please enter me with Walther Nighthawk / Walther Top Point red dot cheers.

[Charlts]

Add me please Pad.E Steyr LP50 with a Thompson Centre Arms scope.

Cheers

Ryan

[Pad. E]

The 'Fairest one of all' cheers Jim & 'Snow White' indeed

Looks like the side shoot is good to go then.

I'll start doing the list soon enough.

Regards
Snow White I mean Paddy

[Pete R]

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Hi Ryan.

With the current comp it's only open sights, at first it was only one category until someone mentioned about different accuracies with different guns. So to keep the peace I split the categories up . I think allowing scopes would again open up a can of worms

However, if & if the consensus is to keep the comp as it is. I could do what Peter agrees's & do a side shoot. Now the side shoot could be an open category with whatever sights?

I think I should be a Diplomat

Regards
Paddy.

Hehe

Here's a suggestion Mister Diplomat sir,
a side shoot with two simple categories, Standard Category for any pistol using Iron (open) Sights and Open Category allowing any sighting system, i.e Mag Scope, Red Dot, Laser. So long as the pistol is shot from the hand unsupported at arms length and the pellet is not fitted with any homing or laser or wire guidance system .

You just know that John will enter both categories. Oh BTW so will I.

It might even be worth running a small pilot next month to see how it goes. If you can fit it in, of course.

Pete

[Jim McArthur]

I think we should stick with open sights for the 4 existing categories, but also have a side shoot / 5th category: any type of pistol with any type of optical sight.

Jim

Hi Ryan.

With the current comp it's only open sights, at first it was only one category until someone mentioned about different accuracies with different guns. So to keep the peace I split the categories up . I think allowing scopes would again open up a can of worms

However, if & if the consensus is to keep the comp as it is. I could do what Peter agrees's & do a side shoot. Now the side shoot could be an open category with whatever sights?

I think I should be a Diplomat

Regards
Paddy.

[Jim McArthur]

I think we should use different targets, at least some of the time.

Let's face it, ours is not a traditional bullseye comp anyway - why do we use two-hand hold, some of the time? We should mix it up with different types of targets: bullseye, hunting, silhouette, oddball stuff: become real all-around pistoleers.

Ji m