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    Proposed change of targets for the UBC Competitions

    Hi

    After October, I am thinking of changing the targets. I know the term "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" However my spead sheet finishes in October so.

    My next spread sheet could be changed to:



    http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b3...istolSheet.jpg

    3 targets, two in the attachment & our excisting one(only shoot two of the four targets) Which will equate the maximum of 200 points.

    The Cookie & Bug targets are from 'Target Bunny' site.

    >HERE<


    All other rules & times would be the same.

    The rules :

    Type: Spring Pistol / Single Stroke Pistol / Co2 /PCP (to be stated when submitting score).

    Sights: Open sights only

    Targets: Cookie, Bug & Two of the excisting 4 bull target

    Stance: Cookie, Bug & One Bull target two handed
    ....One Bull target one handed

    Range: Set at 6yds (That is the longest I can shoot in the back garden)

    Shots: 10/15 practice shots,
    ..5 each shots for the double target,
    ..10 shots for the Cookie target ( only seven cherrys so need to hit 3 cherrys twice for miximum score)
    ..10 shots for the Bug target

    Date: Anytime in the first week of every month.

    Scoring: If the pellet breaks into two points i.e 8 & 9, you score the highest number for the double bull target.
    .....Follow the rules on the two other targets, which are already printed on them.

    Final scores: PM me with scores by the end of the competion Saturday 23:00.
    (earlier the better, so I can keep up to date easier)

    Update scores: I'll put on a Results thread Sunday.

    I've put a poll, so the majority will go whether to change it or keep it as it is.

    Regards
    Paddy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pad. E View Post
    Hi

    After October, I am thinking of changing the targets. I know the term "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"
    Then again "a change is as good as a rest"

    Sounds fun, I'm up for it, How about TB designs a couple of Christmas targets for December. (what am i like it's July and i'm talking Christmas)

    Incase of an equal amount of votes I suggest Paddy gets the casting vote.
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    Paddy, have you got a link to the new targets?

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snooper601 View Post
    Paddy, have you got a link to the new targets?

    Cheers

    John
    Hi John.

    I forget to mention that the link for the other targets are from 'Target Bunny' site.

    >HERE<

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    Hi Paddy, I feel that the new targets deserve their own competition, but the main problem using them with a gun set up for the normal pistol targets, bull style, is that aim points are completely different.

    The standard way of shooting regulation pistol targets is to aim the pistol so that the flat sight line formed by the notch and blade is placed under the whole black part of the target, i.e. it is as though a black ball is sitting on top of a flat line, usually so that the line of the 6 ring is on the flat line, depending on your ability to see that line, and this leaves a small gap between the ball and line which is easier to judge.
    This would mean that you would need to aim off by the distance from the centre of the bull to the outer edge of the black part to hit the new targets, otherwise you would be off by that distance above each target.

    If anyone is shooting the main comp using the flat line bisecting the black bull, I suggest that you re-zero using the ball on the line idea and your scores will improve.

    Cheers

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    Very Good point John, hadn't thought about having to re-zero.

    Good idea Paddy, we may have to have a re-think on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snooper601 View Post
    Hi Paddy, I feel that the new targets deserve their own competition, but the main problem using them with a gun set up for the normal pistol targets, bull style, is that aim points are completely different.

    The standard way of shooting regulation pistol targets is to aim the pistol so that the flat sight line formed by the notch and blade is placed under the whole black part of the target, i.e. it is as though a black ball is sitting on top of a flat line, usually so that the line of the 6 ring is on the flat line, depending on your ability to see that line, and this leaves a small gap between the ball and line which is easier to judge.
    This would mean that you would need to aim off by the distance from the centre of the bull to the outer edge of the black part to hit the new targets, otherwise you would be off by that distance above each target.

    If anyone is shooting the main comp using the flat line bisecting the black bull, I suggest that you re-zero using the ball on the line idea and your scores will improve.

    Cheers

    John
    Cheers John.

    Thanks for the information. Hope that will help me in the coming months

    Just thought of doing something different after October.

    I could do a side shoot alongside the exsisting comp, perhaps?

    But I'll wait & see what the general consensus will be.

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    I was going to wait until I got home and then draft a reply talking about 6oClock point of aim and holding sight picture but I think that John's post above pretty much covers it.

    I too would be happy to participate in a different competition using targets such as those suggested, it would even be an excuse to use a different pistol zeroed to point of aim at six yards.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snooper601 View Post
    The standard way of shooting regulation pistol targets is to aim the pistol so that the flat sight line formed by the notch and blade is placed under the whole black part of the target - This would mean that you would need to aim off
    John
    Whilst this is all true - some of us (me) have to aim off anyway when using a one handed hold as opposed to a two handed hold....

    I not fussed what we do as I enjoy the competition for the sake of personal improvement and out of interest to see how bad I am

    I think it might be fun to throw in a few 'wildcard' matches from time to time to... (a) stop it being repetitive or getting boring (b) make it more of a 'general' shooting skills competition and (c) make John fight outside of his comfort zone (not that I expect to mount a realistic challange to his reign)

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