situation with muzzle loaders

[MARTIN1]

Hello all,
what is the situation with muzzle loaders.
do they require fac certificate?
was reading my gun diges and seen some lovely stuff.
thanks

[John Bedford]

Wall hangers (antiques for display only, by & large) need no cert. UNLESS you want to shoot them in which case you DO need a certificate:

• For muzzle loading pistols FAC required. Usual FAC storage rules.
• For muzzle loading rifles FAC required. Usual FAC storage rules.
• For muskets (smooth bored) SGC required. Usual shotgun storage rules.

In addition, if you use 'real' black powder licences ar needed for this plus an approved storage box. The black powder 'sustitutes' - Pyrodex and Triple 7 - are licence and specific storage arrangements free.

Hope this helps.

[MARTIN1]

thanks a lot,
you have ansewred every thing i wanted to know.
thank you verry much

[robinghewitt]

If you keep a gun as curiosity or ornament you can shoot it but only very infrequently. If it's smooth bored, barrel over 24" from muzzle to point of ignition, you can lend it, as any shotgun, to someone with a shotgun certificate for up to 72 hours without paperwork and they can shoot it. If you have a shotgun certificate you can probably lend it to yourself. If it's rifled or short barrelled you can still fire it infrequently without putting it on your FAC, but it's home orifice approved ranges only.

[Jim McArthur]

What's the difference between a range that's "home office approved", and one that isn't?

Jim

[robinghewitt]

What's the difference between a range that's "home office approved", and one that isn't?

Not approved is private land, shotguns/airguns.

Home office approved means you can shoot anything it's been approved for.

Then there's private land with a Ghillie. I think you are okay if you are accompanied by someone with an open FAC, but I'm not hugely clear how that works on account of I'm working class and can't afford it.