How many of those who slag them actually own an s16 .
Im on my second and yes my first one did pack up. But while it worked it was as good as any other rifle in my collection and a good bit better than some .When I had a problem it was soon sorted by simmons .
I have 11 differant air guns and if i was to sell one it would not be my s16 .
Down side is very hard to sell if you want rid as everybody on here slags them.