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    Are CO2 refills allowed during competition?

    If you're using a co2 pistol in a 60 shot competition, are you allowed to change the cylinder before the pressure runs out on you? If so, can you do a dry fire to check the new one?
    What happened in the days before PCP guns came out?
    I've seen a co2 10 metre gun which is affordable, hence the question.

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    AFAIK, you can change cylinders during a competition and you are allowed to fire a dry-fire (without a pellet) at the target area in order to check the gun. But think twice before buying a CO2 gun for 10m competition. A single-stroke pneumatic (esp the FAS) or a springer (FWB 65, 80 or 90) is a much better budget choice (between £150 to £250). Which CO2 gun are you considering?
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    Any release of the propelling charge, after the first competition target is in place, without a hit on the target will be scored as a miss. Dry firing without the release of the propelling charge is permitted except during finals.

    If the shooter wishes to change or fill, a gas or air cylinder,he/she must leave the firing point to do so (permission must be obtained). No extra time will be allowed to compensate for time lost by a shooter who leaves the firing point to charge or to fill their gas or air cylinder.
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    Proper bulk fill CO2 match pistols were designed so that they would last a full competition plus sighters on a single cylinder, so I wouldn't really worry about it.

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    The one I saw is called an Alpha(Alfa?) Sport for £320. I couldn't find any info on the web about it. The grip has CZ marked on it, but no info on the CZ Brno site.
    I'll look at the others mentioned, I presume they would be 2nd hand for that price range?
    It's a shame the sights on my Crosman are a shade over 50mm wide as I can get
    about 70 shots before the power drops.

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    Looked on eGun ? You can get a Steyr for that money. Apologies for the translation ...

    http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/tran...bf01251f177fbb

    Building of fine works == FWB

    Rule ago == Walther

    SofortKauf == buy it now

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    Talking

    Thanks for the link, it's worth a visit just for the translations
    If we had a site like that in this country, I'd have no money left.
    I'll have to brush up on the little German I learnt years ago.

    Didn't realise co2 could be bulk filled, I assumed it was all 12g capsules

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    The Alfa will take bulk fill and is supplied with a 150gm bottle and adaptor. IMO you are better off with 12gm capsules though as it is difficult to tell how much gas you are transferring from bulk. A 12 gm capsule gives 80 - 110 shots depending on temperature and velocity setting.

    The Alfa is a pretty good gun, but with the present price of £320 new, I think you would be better off with a good S/H Aeron or Tau, probably for less money. When I bought my Alfa just over two years ago, it was Euro230 delivered, inc VAT. A different ball game.

    A shooting buddy in our club got an excellent Aeron for £150 a few months ago. No-one seems to want CO2 any more, but that's their loss! Flavour of the month syndrome maybe?
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    The big advantage of bulk co2 is the cost - a 14lb refill is usually £7.50 - £10 which will last for ages ( 14lb = 6350g = 529 lots of 12g ).

    And you can get it wherever you find beer !

    Out of interest, can anyone tell me how much it costs for an air fill of a diver's bottle and how long it lasts ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duned View Post
    The big advantage of bulk co2 is the cost - a 14lb refill is usually £7.50 - £10 which will last for ages ( 14lb = 6350g = 529 lots of 12g ).

    And you can get it wherever you find beer !

    Out of interest, can anyone tell me how much it costs for an air fill of a diver's bottle and how long it lasts ?
    I think your maths are a bit out 14lb=6.3504kg=6350400g=529166 lots of 12g.
    Could someone better at maths than I check this.If I am correct,someone will have to work out how to refill 12g carts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Pig View Post
    I think your maths are a bit out 14lb=6.3504kg=6350400g=529166 lots of 12g.
    Could someone better at maths than I check this.If I am correct,someone will have to work out how to refill 12g carts.
    Peter
    No mate your maths are out
    1kg=1000gm
    6.35kg=6350gm
    so Duned is correct


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    Thanks for that Andy, wrong again.
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    Personally, I'm just amazed that I can still do sums.

    Does anyone have the facts and figures for compressed air ? I still would like to know ...

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    I've tried looking at the Alfa website but I just get a blue background and nothing else happens.
    Does it load up ok for anyone else?
    http://www.alfa-proj.cz/

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    i have a 12 litre 232 bar divers bottle that i use to fill my air rifle with to 200 bar and i take it to a divers shop to be filled once it wont fill my gun to 200 bar and it costs about £4. not sure how many shots i get out of that but i know its a fair few tins of pellets hope this helps, dan.

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