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    One of my all-time favourite 'scopes was the Tasco 1.75 - 5 X 40 on my old Weihrauch 80.

    Too many shooters go for excessive magnification in my opinion.

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    The little Simmons is a fantastic scope as you say and these days amazing value for money too.. I personally like a bit more mag and mildot so probably the 'best small light' scope is now the Bushnell Elite 2-7x32. A little bit larger but still very compact and excellent quality.
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    Be careful which rifle you mount your Simmons on ,my "lively" BSA 0.177 Supersport wrecked my WTC.My smooth 0.22 HW95k would have probably been O.K.,I`m sure these scopes arn`t spring-gun rated,but they are still IMO the best compact scope on the market.

    Take care

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    hi

    agree, great scope....obvious limitations at distance or lower light..BUT, my mounted on my S410 carbine is proper pidgeon basher....love it...
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    Little WTC

    This scope is that good that i`ve bought another one for my Merlyn!

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    nice review,ive just bought one off here so im well pleased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigglesworth View Post
    Be careful which rifle you mount your Simmons on ,my "lively" BSA 0.177 Supersport wrecked my WTC.My smooth 0.22 HW95k would have probably been O.K.,I`m sure these scopes arn`t spring-gun rated,but they are still IMO the best compact scope on the market.

    Take care

    Kenny
    As it is centrefire rated it should be fine for any springer and if it wasn't just claim on the warranty.. I seem to remember that in Terry Doe's review of the Theoben Dual Magnum the pictures show him using it with the Simmons 1.5-5x20. That beast made most springers seem as smooth as silk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigglesworth View Post
    Be careful which rifle you mount your Simmons on ,my "lively" BSA 0.177 Supersport wrecked my WTC.My smooth 0.22 HW95k would have probably been O.K.,I`m sure these scopes arn`t spring-gun rated,but they are still IMO the best compact scope on the market.

    Take care

    Kenny
    The WTC is FAC rated cos this guy in Sporting Rifle Aug`08 mag,has got a WTC scope on his Benelli 30-06 for shooting Wild Boar!!So if you say your air-rifle wrecked your scope,then i doubt it very much!If this WTC can withstand the recoil of a 30-06 then its certainly gonna take a slight nudge off your popgun!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet boy View Post
    The WTC is FAC rated cos this guy in Sporting Rifle Aug`08 mag,has got a WTC scope on his Benelli 30-06 for shooting Wild Boar!!So if you say your air-rifle wrecked your scope,then i doubt it very much!If this WTC can withstand the recoil of a 30-06 then its certainly gonna take a slight nudge off your popgun!!!!
    It's the way a spring gun recoils that does the damage, it's a two-way kick, so scopes do have to be 'spring gun rated'. Powder-burners are more of a hefty shove backwards. I would think something semi-auto would stress a scope in a similar way.

    Having said that, there is a slow-motion clip on youtube of a .50bmg rifle being fired, the whole rifle and scope whips about like a rubber xxx toy
    Last edited by Oddbob08; 16-09-2008 at 05:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oddbob08 View Post
    It's the way a spring gun recoils that does the damage, it's a two-way kick, so scopes do have to be 'spring gun rated'. Powder-burners are more of a hefty shove backwards. I would think something semi-auto would stress a scope in a similar way.

    Having said that, there is a slow-motion clip on youtube of a .50bmg rifle being fired, the whole rifle and scope whips about like a rubber xxx toy
    Cant see a BSA Supersport wrecking a WTC scope tho-can you,if it can take the recoil off a 30-06??

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    Right that's it, I've heard enough...I getting one. Had my eye on one for too long. Best little scope I had was early 80s Tasco 2.5-32WA. Streuth that thing was soo clear. Everything you say reminds me of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet boy View Post
    Cant see a BSA Supersport wrecking a WTC scope tho-can you,if it can take the recoil off a 30-06??
    I wouldn't put money on it either way, airguns can do some strange things sometimes

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet boy View Post
    Cant see a BSA Supersport wrecking a WTC scope tho-can you,if it can take the recoil off a 30-06??
    Read Oddbob's post above. He's right. The absolute recoil displacement of the 3006 is obviously much greater, as is the recoil velocity it reaches. But it's the g-force, the violence with which it accelerates, that shocks the optics. In some springers this can exceed magnum firearms - especially because it changes direction when the piston bottoms.

    It may be that the little WTC is OK with a springer, but a 3006'll never prove it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullet boy View Post
    The WTC is FAC rated cos this guy in Sporting Rifle Aug`08 mag,has got a WTC scope on his Benelli 30-06 for shooting Wild Boar!!So if you say your air-rifle wrecked your scope,then i doubt it very much!If this WTC can withstand the recoil of a 30-06 then its certainly gonna take a slight nudge off your popgun!!!!

    I'm no expert but i believe that the recoil of a spring piston air rifle is much more damaging to scopes than a firearm due to the nature of the recoil in an air rifle. i think its something to do with "piston bounce".

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    To date I've owned no less than 3 Simmons 1.5-5x20's, I don't like high mag scopes.

    The one I have now I've owned for about 9 years, in that time it has been mounted on various recoiling air rifles including a Fenman, a Sirocco, a HW85, and a HW80 amongst others. It's currently sat on a very twangy HW97 and is still performing like it did when new!

    Best little scope available for the money, IMHO
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