Well, all seemed ok after doing the above. However after another 50 or so shots things werent grouping. Going from wonderful 50m groups to not being able to even hit the paper was annoying especially with the groundhogs finally getting a sunny day this month to sunbathe here in Michigan where we are fortunate enough to have the rainiest May on record, already. So after totally ruling out the dampamounts as a possibility, rechecking stock screws, moderator, etc. I noticed at the bottom of the moderator the gap looked slightly wider than its default hairline crack. I unscrwed vortex from bottom and put it back on nice and tite, and bingo the guns finally back like she was For Good hopefully. Never would have thought an ever so slightly looseded moderator would cause such shotgunnish grouping, and provide me with such frustration. Ohh well, I had some good fun tinkering about with the Elim and resting my worries.

Best Regards,

Mike Jenkins