cheapo springer pistol???

[deathtrap100]

hi everyone im a rifle man mainly but i had bought a cheap break barrel springer pistol from italy a couple of years ago and loved it what a fun little thing, so i have seen things like the smk g10 that sort of thing i was wondering if you had any advice, thing is it needs to be VERY CHEAP £30ish preferably not co2 as i spend enough on co2 in my qb78 but if quite a few co2 carts are included then maybe. soooooo just wondered what sort of thing i am looking at here best thing for money, not bothered if i have to buy a better one secondhand,(any offers anyone)


thanks
jordan

[Kingplinker]

Hi Jordan

I have one of THESE that I had as a project pistol - its been stripped and fettled and has been refinished !
Power is around 3 ft lbs which for a little break barrel isn't bad at all .
It doesn't have a rear sight so you will have to sort that out .

let me know if interested its a smk S2 westlake I think

atvb

Dave

[ikarma70]

I agree with Daves suggestion,the S2 would be better.
The G10 ain't worth its rate in scrap.

[derekm]

If you can stretch to £43 new, the Baikal IZH 53 is sound and should last a lifetime.

[GLow]

Where in Darwen are you pal? I have a G10 you can have a look at just to see how specialist they are It belongs to my little boy.

[deathtrap100]

what do you think to a gamo p15? i have been offered one at £40

[Rob M]

If you can stretch to £43 new, the Baikal IZH 53 is sound and should last a lifetime.

I agree with Derek, the Baikal IZH-53 is superb value for money, it has an excellent barrel and trigger, it's an excellent pistol for the price and will probably outlast any chinese pistol!

[Firestorm]

I agree with Derek, the Baikal IZH-53 is superb value for money, it has an excellent barrel and trigger, it's an excellent pistol for the price and will probably outlast any chinese pistol!

I agree as well, got mine a few weeks ago, lovely target pistol, more accurate than I am, and learning about shooting with the recoil is so enjoyable ( I can hit the pistol section target now........).

Definitely recommend it.

atb
Russ

[Top*Shot]

I agree with Daves suggestion,the S2 would be better.
The G10 ain't worth its rate in scrap.

I have both and totally agree with ikarma on this one.

[deathtrap100]

can i have some honest grouping measurments please anyone, seem to be getting a lot of oh you wont hit a barn door with that but nothing realalistic.
thanks
jordan

[Adam77K]

I don't have a pistol that I want to sell, but as you've been offered a PR15 I thought I'd pass on my thoughts. I had one of these years ago. It's a single stroke pneumatic that fires lead balls (designed only for the Gamo .177 lead balls not steel BBs) from a mag above the barrel. Press the button at the back, swing open the top part containing barrel from the action as far as it will go, then close it compressing the air. If there are balls in the mag it will feed them into the breech automatically.

The pistol is smoothbored and it has fixed sights but I got pretty reasonable accuracy from mine. I could get groups around 1 to 1.5 inch at 6 yards with practice, which is better than some rifled pistols! In fact once for a laugh I entered a pistol FT comp and got 7/13, hitting most of the close targets but missed the longer ones, which I was quite pleased with.

The downside is as mentioned you're limited to proper .177 lead balls which really means the gamo ones, as I'm not aware of another manufacturer.

[Rob M]

can i have some honest grouping measurments please anyone, seem to be getting a lot of oh you wont hit a barn door with that but nothing realalistic.
thanks
jordan

With a bit of work and practice it is easy to get groups of less than an inch at ten metres with a Baikal IZH-53. None of the other pistols mentioned so far will come anywhere near that. The G10, being a smoothbore will group much wider, you will be lucky to hit large tin cans regularly at that range, never mind bulls-eyes on paper targets.

I hit a 15mm disc almost every time at five metres with my IZH-53, and I'm not a particularly good shot. They are accurate pistols, probably more accurate than pistols like the Webley Tempest (much as I love my Tempest!), and like I say, an IZH-53 is far more accurate than a G10, and quite a bit more accurate than any chinese pistol I have ever seen.