MTC Optics

[MARTIN1]

Not a product review per se but a review of the company.

Quite simply, had a problem with an item, instant offer of exchange, had another problem, instant offer of refund and a sincere apology.
No quibbles, no ing about, just good customer service.

Praise where praise is due.

dont mean this in a bad way but to have one problem then another then praise them dont sound right mate.

if that was me id be really angry and wouldnt buy again.
thats just me

[brian747]

i have used several mtc products the 3x9x50 Cobra scope and the mtc ranger finder both good bits of kit and value ,backed up by excellent customer backup, and to top that you are dealing with fellow airgunners who know their businesss, you know where you are with both Gary& Sammie.
atvb Brian

[Fat Pep]

bought large wheel from Sammie for my viper 6-24 fantastic service from them but not from Post Office ,Sammie rang me every morning to check arrival and was gonna send me a 2nd wheel just in case.. ps heard Gary was a Boro lad so I know he'll be a top fella too !

[Gary C]

bought large wheel from Sammie for my viper 6-24 fantastic service from them but not from Post Office ,Sammie rang me every morning to check arrival and was gonna send me a 2nd wheel just in case.. ps heard Gary was a Boro lad so I know he'll be a top fella too !

Bugger off you posh pansy I am from Grangetown (the not so posh end) :-)

[C3PO_1]

Slightly off topic, but I achieved my most accurate shooting with my previous HW100 married to a Viper 4-16 x 50 scope. Just bought and received a Mamba Lite 4-16 x 44 and will be sticking it on the TX200HC this weekend!

[Parabuteo]

I have to be honest here.

They dont just give good service to new customers, the old ones get good service also.

I would take this opportunity to make one recommendation though, if you have not considered the mamba lite as a serious sister scope to the others, then do.

The only thing lite about it is the price, as regards light, it lets plenty through.

I was using a sidwinder 30 this morning and looking into some trees with it.

The image was only sharpish round the middle, and the colour fringeing was very noticeable....simply horid, and would not have happened with the viper or the little mamba.

As for spotting tufties tail poking out...forget it...(OK, I know the sidewinder 30 is probably bot an ideal tree rat scope, but it was not that great in rabbit mode either, the ret is just so thick, you need the loops on the SR6 to see the pellet holes otherwise it just covers themmwhen zeroing)

Dont let the 25mm tube fool you. We have used 25mm tubes for years without any problems.

30mm tubes have their advanatges, but the 25mm on the Lite is no disadvantage, it is comparable with the much larger Viper I have on my rabbiting rifle.

I am selling my scopes up and moving entirely over to MTC when I can.

The reasons for this are several fold.

1. I have never met Gary or Sammie, but they know there stuff, treat me very well, and put up with my prattling on the phone. I was stupid enough to break a cover on my Viper once....I got one next day FOC....what's not to like??

2. MTC are innovators. rather than developing one scope, making slight changes to it, and calling it different names (but never really having all of the useful features on one scope) they see features as a base line, then build on them (or drop the price but compromise on accessories rather than features/quality).

One example is that pretty well all of their line is side parallax...I wont be using another front parallax scope for hunting, so I would like this as a standard.

3. They offer exceptional value for money.

4. They both walk the walk, so are in good position to evaluate and design that they market.

5. Since all my rifles are the same calibre, and of similar performance, it makes sense to use the same ret (SRB) and not have to keep using vastly different zeros, points of aim etc.

Great to see airgunners helping airgunners and doing (hopefully) well out of it

[C3PO_1]

^^^

What Parabuteo says!

[Original 45]

I had a faulty IR on Mamba - Sammie replaced it straight away.
I had a floppy lens cover (ooh er missus ) Sammie replaced it straight away.
Straight forward & promptly sorted.

Good customer service, good product (which as Parabuteo says - keeps being developed & improved & fair pricing are the is the reason I now have 2 x 10x44, 3-12x44 Viper & 4-16x50 Mamba & an MTC LRF.

ATB Simon

[C3PO_1]

Today I used the Mamba Lite on my TX200HC and here are my initial thoughts:

• Feels much lighter than the Viper, which is good for a heavy springer.
  
• Optically very sharp with no distortion around the edges and image is very good right up to x16. Slight Hint of it going milky if head is in wrong position at maximum magnification and if with sun is in front, but it really is hardly noticeable...in fact less so than my old Viper (even though same glass).
  
• Great reticle, which is why I love these scopes.
  
• Reticle adjustment is easy and the low-profile adjusters click positively.
  
• Zoom ring is very smooth, parallax adjuster is a little less smooth but not significantly so.
  
• Feels solid in construction.
  
• One thought for improvement for me is the field of view ... I noticed my Bushnell Sportsman has a wider FoV, by which I mean it fills the viewing area as you look down the scope. It's smaller in frame on MTC scopes so it would be great if that was changed.

Overall, great scope and perfect for hunting.

[Sammie]

Hi Guys

Many thanks for all your kind comments. I really do appreciated the positive feed back from youall

Are you reading this Gary????

Sammie

[Parabuteo]

Today I used the Mamba Lite on my TX200HC and here are my initial thoughts:

• Feels much lighter than the Viper, which is good for a heavy springer.
  
• Optically very sharp with no distortion around the edges and image is very good right up to x16. Slight Hint of it going milky if head is in wrong position at maximum magnification and if with sun is in front, but it really is hardly noticeable...in fact less so than my old Viper (even though same glass).
  
• Great reticle, which is why I love these scopes.
  
• Reticle adjustment is easy and the low-profile adjusters click positively.
  
• Zoom ring is very smooth, parallax adjuster is a little less smooth but not significantly so.
  
• Feels solid in construction.
  
• One thought for improvement for me is the field of view ... I noticed my Bushnell Sportsman has a wider FoV, by which I mean it fills the viewing area as you look down the scope. It's smaller in frame on MTC scopes so it would be great if that was changed.

Overall, great scope and perfect for hunting.

Ha, funny that.

I have just bought 2 more, one for my TX and another for the PS.

I will only be using these for day shooting though, if I go lamping (IF) I would use my old connect, I have NV anyway, so am not worried about add ons...at the moment

NV and lamping are different strategies, one is pretty static, one is quite mobile, so if you can do both.

There is so much ambient light here that normal lamping takes some doing, but NV can work in some areas.

The lite is just a nice little compact, well featured scope, and it wont make anything other than a pistol top heavy.

Better spending spare cash on decent mounts TBH (The lite does not have any, which is fine as mine will be having one piece for the boingers anyway).

I have one on my Huntsman, ideal. Works nice on bunnies

My Viper is a big beasty, but it lives on my rabbit ambushing rig, which is pretty well bipod bound, and I use it for ambushing rabbits (I have lots of hedge row warrens with very little cover, so it is ambush into wind, take one or two and move on, so they tend do be over some quite wide ranges, hence the target type scope). Works a treat, particularly with the sunshade.

Spent many a happy hour kipping behind charlene and the viper

I used to go for the largest scope I could afford, but it has become apparent that this is a bit unwise, and does not necessarilly help the balance and head position.

Just got to get shot of the sidewinder now....any offers??

[Macone]

I have to be honest here.

I would take this opportunity to make one recommendation though, if you have not considered the mamba lite as a serious sister scope to the others, then do.

100% agree with you

Trouble with scopes and in fact rifles at times is that people read airgun mags, forums, hype etc and off they go with their cash. They often don't truly ask themselves what they will use the kit for and what will actually do the job for them that warrants the cash expenditure. The mamba lite is perfect example.

Haven't got a bad word to say for Sammi when I've met her in person or dealt with her. End of

[C3PO_1]

100% agree with you

Trouble with scopes and in fact rifles at times is that people read airgun mags, forums, hype etc and off they go with their cash. They often don't truly ask themselves what they will use the kit for and what will actually do the job for them that warrants the cash expenditure. The mamba lite is perfect example.

Haven't got a bad word to say for Sammi when I've met her in person or dealt with her. End of

People would surely think about what features are useful to them and make their decision based on their needs. Why would they buy it otherwise?

[Macone]

Nope not always,

Ok for example how many MTC Vipers are in the secondhand section? Quite a few come up. Airgun reviews come up, optics reviews on here etc and buy it as a hunting scope. Why? Because they think they are getting quality optics for their money. BUT its not the best hunting scope on a sub 12 air rifle full stop. Its a target scope.

I've seen plenty that have bought an air gun from a shop with only shouldering the rifle inside the shop and never firing a shot through it. Out it goes as secondhand a little while later cos they can't get on with it and buy a second hand S410.

NV... another fine example of people spending money at sub 12 and stupid amounts when a lamp would do a great job for x10 less.

Boys and their toys, maybe? Lead to believe that buying the "best" would be the way to go.......

and out of interest are Bushnell making a 5-15x44 now

I had the 5-15x40 and still see it as one of the best optical scopes I have used for the money.

Just wondering if the new model is better?


In my job never doubt the stupidity of the general public and not all airgun owners are actually as knowledgeable as the size of their wallets

and the example I give is the one I have made. MTC Mamba lite vs Viper to go ratting with.

[Gary C]

Nope not always,

Ok for example how many MTC Vipers are in the secondhand section? Quite a few come up. Airgun reviews come up, optics reviews on here etc and buy it as a hunting scope. Why? Because they think they are getting quality optics for their money. BUT its not the best hunting scope on a sub 12 air rifle full stop. Its a target scope.

I've seen plenty that have bought an air gun from a shop with only shouldering the rifle inside the shop and never firing a shot through it. Out it goes as secondhand a little while later cos they can't get on with it and buy a second hand S410.

NV... another fine example of people spending money at sub 12 and stupid amounts when a lamp would do a great job for x10 less.

Boys and their toys, maybe? Lead to believe that buying the "best" would be the way to go.......

and out of interest are Bushnell making a 5-15x44 now

I had the 5-15x40 and still see it as one of the best optical scopes I have used for the money.

Just wondering if the new model is better?


In my job never doubt the stupidity of the general public and not all airgun owners are actually as knowledgeable as the size of their wallets

and the example I give is the one I have made. MTC Mamba lite vs Viper to go ratting with.

I'd prefer the Viper