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  1. 24-09-2008, 10:54 AM #1
    Oldboy
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    .41 Rimfire

    Hi

    I am looking for some onfo on the .41 Long rimfire (not the Colt lightning one) and wondered if anyone could point me to a source please?

    I believe it was an upgraded .41 short to give it a bit more umph?

    cheers
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  2. 30-09-2008, 03:25 PM #2
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    You might want to check on one of the US Cowboy shooting forums, like CAS City.

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  3. 15-10-2008, 10:23 AM #3
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    Datig

    According to Datig.
    .41 Long Rimfire;
    Bullet diameter = .402"
    Case diameter = .407
    Rim diameter = .468
    Case length = .634
    Bullt weight = 163 gns
    Longer version of .41 Rimfire Derringer cartridge. Popular in pistols and a few rifles from c1870 to 1910.

    Any help?
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  4. 15-10-2008, 12:56 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by majex45 View Post
    According to Datig.
    .41 Long Rimfire;
    Bullet diameter = .402"
    Case diameter = .407
    Rim diameter = .468
    Case length = .634
    Bullt weight = 163 gns
    Longer version of .41 Rimfire Derringer cartridge. Popular in pistols and a few rifles from c1870 to 1910.

    Any help?
    Just spotted this ... thanks
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  5. 30-12-2008, 11:58 PM #5
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    I actually have a Colt derringer in .41 rimfire. Its the one with the barrel that twists sideways to load and unload. I don't know how powerful the .41 rimfire is/was but I don't think I'd be very confident to fire it even if ammo were available.
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  6. 31-12-2008, 04:24 AM #6
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    A collector, are you, Napoleon?

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  7. 31-12-2008, 07:14 PM #7
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    Not in a big way Jim. Apart from the Colt derringer, I have a huge flintlock pistol that I think they called an 1802 Land Pattern. It must be about .65 in calibre. I also have a beautiful matched pair of flintlock 'muff' pistols made by the esteemed London gunmaker Wodgon. They have turn off barrels of about .50 in calibre and are very nicely engraved. I would really like a genuine percussion revolver but don't have one yet. A few years ago I was at Bisley and there was a perfect Rogers and Spencer for £950. I ummed and aahed and then turned it down. An hour later I decided I would have it after all and went back and it had been sold. I would have liked that because it was virtually unmarked and would have gone with my Euroarms version that I had at the time. One of my patients knowing my interest in all things BP offered me his great great uncles Adams revolver which I don't think had ever been fired. He wanted £2000 which was a lot of money at the time and I have too many expensive hobbies but it was probably worth it because it was like new.

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  8. 01-01-2009, 01:27 AM #8
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    Not a big collection, but a few nice specimens there, Napoleon.

    I'm starting to get interested in BP cartridge revolvers myself: don't know much about them, nor have much money to spend on them, though.

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  9. 02-01-2009, 09:42 AM #9
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    The only BP cartridge revolvers we are allowed to own in Britain are ones for obsolete calibres and of course you aren't allowed to fire them. I would quite like a break action S & W in 44 Russian or similar after reading Walter Winans book "The Art of Revolver Shooting". This is full of late Victorian/Early Edwardian Gems. Well worth seeking out a copy.
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  10. 02-01-2009, 03:19 PM #10
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    I just ordered a BOOK (not the gun) on pinfire revolvers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McArthur View Post
    I just ordered a BOOK (not the gun) on pinfire revolvers.

    Jim
    Let us know how you get on with the book Jim. I seem to remember there was an article on pinfire guns in Gun Digest years ago but I can't find it and my collection stops at '96
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  12. 03-01-2009, 07:45 PM #12
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    Will do, Napoleon. Actually I just mailed my check this morning, so I don't expect to receive the book for a few weeks.

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  13. 04-01-2009, 02:09 AM #13
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    hi, i have three .41 rimfires, a colt .41short no3 deringer ,a remington .41short o/u deringer and a ivor johnson favorite no 4 six shot single action revolver chambered in .41 long which i believe was made in the 1870,s.i have several inert .41 short rounds but have never seen a .41 long .dixie gun works in the states used to sell reloadable brass in .41short which had an offset hole machined in the case head which used a.22 blank as a primer ..good luck with your research ..greasemonkey
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  14. 04-01-2009, 06:57 PM #14
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    Thanks, Greasemonkey! Sounds as though you have a nice little .41 collection there!

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  15. 04-01-2009, 08:14 PM #15
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    thanks jim , the little colt is my favorite, as i am sure napoleon will agree with me,they are purely functional but superbly made.strangely it has london proof marks meaning it was retailed in the UK.sadly i bought it from a gun fair and the seller had no history on it,if only it could talk!cheers greasemonkey
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