Hello All,
Just got a rifle with a Simmons 3 - 9 x 40mm scope on it. The scope says made in China.
What I would like to know is, are Simmons scopes normally made in China or is this a clone?
Regards
Hello All,
Just got a rifle with a Simmons 3 - 9 x 40mm scope on it. The scope says made in China.
What I would like to know is, are Simmons scopes normally made in China or is this a clone?
Regards
Dave (www.kwacs.org.uk) "Wildfowlers do it in the mud"
most are made in china,the good ones are made in phillipenes,all the new range is made in china even the top ends new aetecs, some of the old range were made in china and phillipines,that scope you got is not far off a wtc,i have wtcs and aetecs.
that scope does go blurry on 9x depending on distance but 8x and under its very clear.
atb
http://www.simmonsoptics.co.uk/AboutSimmons.htm
There's not many hints on the website. However, I know that many moons ago Simmons scopes were made in the Phillipines. I think that may have changed when the brand changed hands a few years ago.
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Hello Sam.
Thanks for the reply and the link. The scope I have holds focus right through the range. My eyes aren't what they used to be but a shooting mate was playing with the scope on the way home in the car yesterday. He says it was spot on for his eyes right through the magnification range.
Regards
Dave (www.kwacs.org.uk) "Wildfowlers do it in the mud"
DAVE,
china are copying just about everthing at the moment,on licence from companies from the uk to the rest of the world,unfortunately most things
not too well,its a lottery im;e afraid,remember when imports used to
have,....made in taiwan..... stamped on them, its no different now
from china, some things good,most rubbish,and then try getting your money back when your item goes t*ts upi would buy the original in
the uk given the choice,at least you have comeback if its not
working, or fit for purpose.
ATVB TERRY
Last edited by TERRYT; 05-10-2008 at 03:26 PM. Reason: SPELLING
Although I still walk softly with a big "STICK" I firmly believe the carrot works best,
I have an Orvis CFO fly reel made in China. They cost 160 bar. Bought it BNIB off fleabay for 80 ish. When I saw on the box made in China I was a little disappointed.They were made in uk untill recently. However, on inspection the workmanship if first class. Stunning in fact. So they ain't all bad.
I heard China is the new Japan regarding scope glass?
If you need to know something ask somebody who knows not Fred down the pub..
Although I still walk softly with a big "STICK" I firmly believe the carrot works best,
Thanks for the replies all.
I'm going to use the Simmons for a while and see how it goes.
Regards
Dave (www.kwacs.org.uk) "Wildfowlers do it in the mud"
Don't dismiss China. It has has more than come in from the manufacturing cold.
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absolutely spot on! well nearly.
There is a limit on quality based on the lens manufacturers capability, "Japanese" scopes will "never"(?) compete with German because the lens manufacturers can't get the same glass crystals. The problem with Chinese scopes is both spec and culture. Spec, as POK says, is often not their fault.
Some of oour big boys want a scope they can sell for under £50 and therefore, with their overheads, end up screwing the manufacturer down to a few $$. Not their fault. The other problem is culture, there is an attitude of "near enough is good enough" in China. Details are not too important. This means that QC and finish is not ideal.
We are fortunate that our manufacturers come from outside China and have much higher expectations, but even then if we look at the finish on the Viper it is not what we would like. Sure, it works ok, but could be so much prettier. The manufacturers focus is less than 2% failures, bomb proof internals, high quality lenses, and so why is a nice deep finish needed?
We have been lucky enough to become close friends with them, to the point that this friendship would stay outside business, and as such have been able to teach them a little about expectations which they have taken on board. They have taught us so much more about design and build, but nonetheless the new scopes we have coming out have a much more european ergonomic.
There are certain instances that I can't use one of our scopes, and at that time I'll shop around. I have no interest in where it's manufactured, I look to the company selling the scope. Again, as POK says, they have the final say and the manufacture behind is immaterial.
omg , i hope the chinese dont start making air guns .
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