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    Oh deep joy,

    Went and did my regular tuesday shoot last night and shot 2 cards with my Euroarms R&S. 2 nice groups of 2 and a half inches, one score of 52/60, dead chuffed.

    I'm getting old and my eyesight ain't too hot, I normally only manage 3" groups with my underlever 357mag over open sights. So I guess I have cracked it with my loading of my m/l revolver.

    The real clincher is to get the ball seated to just a hairs breadth below the face of the cylinder, accuracy improved a heck of a lot.

    My load, 17gr by weight 777 powder, 38spl case of tescos' cous-cous, home cast balls lubed with Alox, CCI caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokeless Coal View Post
    Oh deep joy,

    Went and did my regular tuesday shoot last night and shot 2 cards with my Euroarms R&S. 2 nice groups of 2 and a half inches, one score of 52/60, dead chuffed.

    I'm getting old and my eyesight ain't too hot, I normally only manage 3" groups with my underlever 357mag over open sights. So I guess I have cracked it with my loading of my m/l revolver.

    The real clincher is to get the ball seated to just a hairs breadth below the face of the cylinder, accuracy improved a heck of a lot.

    My load, 17gr by weight 777 powder, 38spl case of tescos' cous-cous, home cast balls lubed with Alox, CCI caps.
    Congratulations on your cards, Smokeless!

    Some great practical info there.

    Cheers,

    Jim
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    I used to have the Euroarms Lothar Walther model in blued steel. The so called stainless ones are actually hard plated with a process smilar to the Nikasil used on motorcycle cylinders. Mine was very accurate with a good trigger but it was showing some signs of wear after a few years. Also it had a distressing habit of screws dropping out at inconvenient moments, invariably when I was shooting Historic Revolver. This was cured by judicious use of Loctite. Most of the Rogers and Spencers are all made in the same factory in Italy. This includes the Feinwerkbau version as well as Euroarms and others. I preferred it to the Remington NMA because it was much easier to cap the cylinders.

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    The Stainless models are Stainless Steel, but there are Nickle plated models also, I've used both now and they look completely different, the plated one is like chrome, where the Stainless one, has a dull finish, hope that's cleared that one up.

    Yes I admit it I was wrong, but at least I'm big enought to say that I was wrong. But you must admit, when together with a Stainless model of another gun the colour difference is negligable and when you have the owner and previous owner swear blind that it is Stainless, what are you supposed to believe, so I admit I was wrong, but it wasn't my fault

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    Last edited by LONG REACH; 24-11-2008 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LONG REACH View Post
    The Stainless models are Stainless Steel, but there are Nickle plated models also, I've used both now and they look completely different, the plated one is like chrome, where the Stainless one, has a dull finish, hope that's cleared that one up.

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    The plated ones actually have a dull finish called London Grey. Are you thinking of the Remington models? I've never seen a Stainless R&S.

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    Euroarms, I believe have made all four models, the blued, stainless, nickle plated and london finish versions. John,one of our club members has a very nice stainless steel model with target sights (which has the script stainless steel stamped into it) this has a dull to shiney finish, the nickle version (very shiney,as chrome) has no stampings to say what it's made of as is the same with the blued model. I was actually having a good look at a nickle R&S (which was made by Chapparal) at the Great Malvern Arms fair, last Sunday.
    I know the finish you call London Grey and that is different again, as in a horrible dull finish and if you have never seen a stainless R&S how can you say that they don't exist ?. I think there will be quite a few members on here who will disagree with you And yes I do know the difference between a Rogers & Spencer and a Remington 1858 NMA. I've been using a stainless Remi 1858 NMA, for the past 4 months, along with a Remi 1858 Buffalo, which is blued with a brass frame.

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    I didn't say they don't exist. I just said I've never seen one. Interestingly neither have Henry Kranks. This doesn't mean there isn't one. Just that they can't be very common. Post a picture for us all to see. Actually I would quite like a stainless version if as well made as my blued steel one. Might be tempted.
    Last edited by Napoleon IV; 20-11-2008 at 05:02 PM.

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