What IS a "real" air pistol, anyway?

[ranger02]

your quite right its unfare to call the nemesis ugly its just differant but a pistol
thats top of its game

[Jerry Cornelius]

I really can't understand why anyone would think the HW45 looks good. I own one, sure, they are well-made, accurate and powerful, but good looking?

The top of the thing looks way out of proportion with the grip and it displays the typical lack of grace and line that most German products do.

I may be wrong but I thought it was designed in the US by Dr Beeman? I agree it looks horrible though, like a 99p plastic waterpistol bought from the corner shop.

For my money a real air pistol is anything that is not trying to look like a powder burner. (I do have an umarex S+W as a guilty secret though)

Like ranger 02 I am also a sucker for odd or good designs, the Hyscore is a favourite of mine, the crosman 600 is a classic, there is the BSA 240 and of course there are Webleys. (Neither odd nor especially good if we are honest, but somehow just right)

God help me I think the Crosman 2240 is also a classic design in its way. Not a good air pistol, (although it can be made fairly good), and not worth the UK price, but it does what it says on the tin, and isn't that what design is about?

[throdgrain]

In a rare visit to this forum I'd just like to say that a real air pistol to me is a Webley Senior/Premier etc.

[Firestorm]

I reckon........

REAL air pistols are exactly what it says.
Pellets/BB's are pushed by air, not any other medium.

My Baikal 53M is, so is my Gamo Falcon, so is my Gamo Compact. (I might as well throw the G10, but it also qualifies)

None of my Co2 pistols are REAL air pistols, they are weaker "toys" as Andy used to say.....

But I reckon my EB22 could be an honourary one as it's nearly at full power and has got a nice kick

Russ

[ranger02]

yes the senior is one of the best in fact i did a deal to buy a senior on
monday to add to my collection and look forward to getting it but i am not
sure about the new typoon any one got one any views on this pistol i do not
think its a true webley or build it the same standard again i may be wrong
as i have not got one yet they seem to cheap to me

[eredel]

Another vote here for the underrated Nemesis....I'm as accurate with my .22 as I am with my .177 HW40...mind you, that's not saying much...
Eric.

[Rob M]

I may be wrong but I thought it was designed in the US by Dr Beeman? I agree it looks horrible though, like a 99p plastic waterpistol bought from the corner shop.

I thought Dr. Beeman specified it, but then collaborated with HW on the actual design, but I'm not certain. I like unusual designs too, there's something about things where free-thinkers have studied a problem and seen solutions that everyone else has missed. That's why I love things like my ABAS Major, Hy-Scores, Record Jumbo, and my old SAAB 900, unusual designs that work well but don't follow the crowd.

The Abas Major, that is a REAL air pistol. An unusual design, hand-built by craftsmen, compact, graceful with clean lines, easy and safe to use, and best of all it works well. I have one and it shoots better than the Webley Mk1 which was its contemporary. I would genuinely love to see that format updated. Imagine that, a modern pistol with a concealed underlever, a modern synthetic piston head, buttons and spring guides, it would be brilliant!

[Jerry Cornelius]

The Abas Major, that is a REAL air pistol. An unusual design, hand-built by craftsmen, compact, graceful with clean lines, easy and safe to use, and best of all it works well. I have one and it shoots better than the Webley Mk1 which was its contemporary

One day....

I did get my hands on a Warrior recently though, that's another great old air pistol.

[Firestorm]

The Abas Major, that is a REAL air pistol. !

Had a look at the Brown's website, that looks a beautiful design.
Could you put up some various views of this being cocked etc Rob? Love to see them. Do you see any up for sale at all?


(have you seen those georgeous stocks they use for the shotguns they refurb.....WOW.. wouldn't mind some of that wood)

atb
Russ

[uk litehammer]

Reckon this qualifies, 18ft/lbs.

http://mountainaircustomairguns.com/large_2250HPA.htm

[Jim McArthur]

Reckon this qualifies, 18ft/lbs.

http://mountainaircustomairguns.com/large_2250HPA.htm

Reckon so.

I always wonder, though, about "pistols" that look like a rifle with the stock missing!

Jim

[Rob M]

Had a look at the Brown's website, that looks a beautiful design.
Could you put up some various views of this being cocked etc Rob? Love to see them. Do you see any up for sale at all?


(have you seen those georgeous stocks they use for the shotguns they refurb.....WOW.. wouldn't mind some of that wood)

atb
Russ

No pictures of it cocking, but still...

try here...

[uk litehammer]

Had a look at the Brown's website, that looks a beautiful design.
Could you put up some various views of this being cocked etc Rob? Love to see them. Do you see any up for sale at all?




atb
Russ

I shouldn't think you're likely to see any up for sale, as his guns are all hand built over some considerable time, and people order, and then wait, sometimes for a very long time. Not very likely to sell one after that. They are one of life's collectable classics.

[Rob M]

Actually a collector did advertise an ABAS Major on here a few months ago, these are desirable and very collectible though, I think it sold fairly quick.

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/show...highlight=abas

Use the search facility, there are a few interesting threads on the ABAS Major in this forum.

[franktheferret]

I still have a dozen air pistols. My pride and joy is a Webley MkI from 1929. It has never been apart, but it still shoots beautifully, although the trigger sear is worn now. I like the Indian although it gave some problems when I rebuilt it from a basket case to try to get it below the legal limit. I like it because it is quirky to cock and load. The favourite is hard to say. The Daisy 717 is probably the best starter target pistol available. The Gamo is probably the next step up, but if you couldn't hit it with the Daisy, etc.

For sheer fun with accuracy, I go for the S&W revolver CO2 clones. It doesn't matter to me that they are lowly powered.