Iv noticed on here that several people use 777 black powder substitute. Now i will be the first to accept that i have cackled on about using the black stuff as opposed to substitutes but i have to admit that its getting dearer and more dificult to get hold of as my usual suplier has stopped holding it due to "HEALTH AND SAFETY" What do you pay for a kilo pot and do you use it in the same way and quantities as b/p.? Also do you still get the "GRIN Factor" Ie, lots of smoke and a 6 foot flame. Tim