thanks costas indeed you have to try it to believe it, its another world compared to the 12ft/lbs with 177
i will start weighing them to see if groups can indeed improve and get such results more often. 4" at 145m is not bad but if i could achieve groups in the 2" circle like the one i shot this time, it would be simply awesome. if it happens once you could make it happen again. i cant tell you how i enjoyed placing the third shot near the others and watching it arc its way and make the hole near the other two shots. this time i could see the arc better as the target was a large white piece of paper. give it a go at 145 Costas and show me some groups. enjoy the festive season. the weather is awesome down here 20degrees celcius and sunny