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    .22 Chinese made Westlake rifle, how old?

    I have just found an old Westlake rifle in my loft, can any of you Airgun BBS collectors tell me roughly how old this Chinese made actually is, I think either side of the mid 1980's as I vaguely remember these early Chinese imports advertised in the hobby magazines. I have the urge after recent threads for and against the quality of similar rifles to see just what can be done to this rifle to achieve a decent plinker or possibly close range ratter with a bit of TLC. I have just chronoed it at between 318 and 332 fps does anyone know what to expect ft lbs wise.

    Thankyou in anticipation .
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    Quote Originally Posted by clifftop View Post
    I have just found an old Westlake rifle in my loft, can any of you Airgun BBS collectors tell me roughly how old this Chinese made actually is, I think either side of the mid 1980's as I vaguely remember these early Chinese imports advertised in the hobby magazines. I have the urge after recent threads for and against the quality of similar rifles to see just what can be done to this rifle to achieve a decent plinker or possibly close range ratter with a bit of TLC. I have just chronoed it at between 318 and 332 fps does anyone know what to expect ft lbs wise.

    Thankyou in anticipation .
    Hi Clifftop,
    Used to bring these in through John Nash at SMK during the early 90s, will need a pic to age her as early models had little address, pic to my email.
    Cheers Glynn.

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    Am I correct in thinking that the SMK B2 is the same model?
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    Hi Clifftop,

    Westlake as with the Lion & BAM are all brand names, SMK are now useing XS to improve the image. During the 80s
    90s & a little later with NOS you would see the name Westlake on their rifles & pistols. But to answer your question Westlake & B2 are one of same. I have one of the earliest Westlake prototypes in my collection dated 1983 this was used by Reps to introduce them into are UK market & did'nt they do well. Originaly designed as a training rifle for Chinese Army & other Govt contracts.
    Hope this helps.
    Cheers Glynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman View Post
    Hi Clifftop,

    Westlake as with the Lion & BAM are all brand names, SMK are now useing XS to improve the image. During the 80s
    90s & a little later with NOS you would see the name Westlake on their rifles & pistols. But to answer your question Westlake & B2 are one of same. I have one of the earliest Westlake prototypes in my collection dated 1983 this was used by Reps to introduce them into are UK market & did'nt they do well. Originaly designed as a training rifle for Chinese Army & other Govt contracts.
    Hope this helps.
    Cheers Glynn.
    Very interesting, thanks Glynn.

    What age bracket could mine fall into then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clifftop View Post
    Very interesting, thanks Glynn.

    What age bracket could mine fall into then?

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    Hi Cifftop, Without a pic I can only go on the Westlake cylinder address, as stock did change shape in forend, heel & toe, comb pitch etc, I could only say 80s 90s era. Is she scope railed, as this was an extra option.
    Send me a pic & I will date her.
    Cheers Glynn.

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    Where's the cylinder address? What bit do I need to photograph?

    I have a good digi camera with macro so it shouldn't be too hard to do, but I can only see the Westlake mark at the rear top end of the action.
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    Hi Clifftop,
    That is the address on the action, just take a pic of the whole rifle, I can tell from the shape of the stock it's year of manufacture.
    Cheers Glynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman View Post
    Hi Clifftop,
    That is the address on the action, just take a pic of the whole rifle, I can tell from the shape of the stock it's year of manufacture.
    Cheers Glynn.
    Okay mate, it's going to be tomorrow (or later) but I'll post a link to the picture (photobucket) on here.

    Thanks for all your input mate, much appreciated. I know it's a cheapo gun, but I'd love to get it back into decent condition, or improve on the original design if I can.

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    Hi Clifftop,

    No problem, I will look forward to your pic. Lots you can do to a Westlake B2 for the sub 12 ft.lbs, but you will need a Chrono. Have a goodnight.

    Cheers Glynn.

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    hi all on the subject of chinese rifles does any one know anything about snowpeak guns? i've a smoothbore .177 with muzzle adapted for firing corks,looks to well made to be chinese but a reliable source says it is,sorry to hijack your thread hope you don't mind regards graham.

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    New to me

    Hi Graham,

    I know most of the old China steel, but this one is NEW to me hope some one else can help.

    Cheers Glynn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman View Post
    Hi Clifftop,

    No problem, I will look forward to your pic. Lots you can do to a Westlake B2 for the sub 12 ft.lbs, but you will need a Chrono. Have a goodnight.

    Cheers Glynn.
    Just bought a Combro Mk4 today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rayman View Post
    Hi Graham,

    I know most of the old China steel, but this one is NEW to me hope some one else can help.

    Cheers Glynn.
    thanks for the reply glynn,i might start a new thread for this query i don't like hijacking threads regards graham.

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