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  1. 03-06-2009, 12:40 PM #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Target Bunny View Post
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    I think you are still in the UK at present but when you get this I need to know if my 1959 Daisy is elegible since it pokes the BB out with a rod?
    Yes I got it from new thanks to an aunt in Canada, Christmas 1960 when I was 11.
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    What about the old Red White & Blue Webley Target?

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    It's eligible, Jim, IF this particular MODEL went out of production during or earlier than 1986 (see post # 41 for complete rule).

    The reason for the "out of production" criteria is partly because with air guns it's often difficult to determine what year the particular gun you're holding in your hand was manufactured.

    Also partly because it's debatable whether anything still in production really is "vintage".

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  2. 03-06-2009, 12:44 PM #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by air revolution View Post
    i'm up for it and would be pleased to offer any member who would like to enter but has no vintage gun one of mine for the competition,i'm afraid this would have to be from my close area and if a local(reasonably close perhaps 20 miles from canvey island) then not only would i enter but i would bring all my vintage guns to allow more shooters to try them.i'm at present trying to introduce bell target shooting to my stamping ground with as yet small response but it grows.more to the point i reckon all of the members of the club i frequent would probably come too.regards nik






    lincoln jeffries,bsa standard,light pattern,3 cadet majors and soon to become 4 cadets.

    Nik, as Tony said, this will be an internet comp, but it would be great if a bunch of guys could all get together for their participation in it: even more fun that way!

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  3. 08-06-2009, 04:39 PM #63
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    Up for It

    Let me have details when its ready to run.
    Could give it a plug on my Bell Target Web site as well.
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  4. 09-06-2009, 09:18 AM #64
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    Age of gun

    Hi Jim
    The age of this particular gun has been verified by Serial number and asking Daisy so no probs on age. Thing is I don't know when production ceased since this is one of the basic "forever" kids models. Will check with daisy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thimblehouse View Post
    Let me have details when its ready to run.
    Could give it a plug on my Bell Target Web site as well.
    Will do, and thanks for the offer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Target Bunny View Post
    Hi Jim
    The age of this particular gun has been verified by Serial number and asking Daisy so no probs on age. Thing is I don't know when production ceased since this is one of the basic "forever" kids models. Will check with daisy.

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    HMMM....as the rule is written, Jim, that could be a problem.

    Since some had complained of the difficulty of verifying the age of a particular air gun, we decided to go with an "out of production in or before 1986" rule - for the model, not the particular gun in question.

    So, if you hold in your hand a particular gun that was made in, say, 1940, but the MODEL is still in production, or didn't go out of production until 1987, or later: that particular gun WOULDN'T qualify.

    I do have an Airgun Blue Book which gives production-run years for different models and I'll check this (and any other one in question) out.

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    Are the pistols all in one class, or are there seperate classes for spring, ssp, pcp, etc?
    I'm not trying to make more work for you, honest!

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    They'll all be scored in one class, Garry.

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    Remember that the Vintage comp starts on 29 August. This is going to be a pure-fun, occasional (only in the months where there IS a 5th Saturday) competition: no leader board. It will be for rifles and pistols (separate scoring categories).

    IF there's sufficient interest I might add pistol crossbows, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McArthur View Post
    Remember that the Vintage comp starts on 29 August. This is going to be a pure-fun, occasional (only in the months where there IS a 5th Saturday) competition: no leader board. It will be for rifles and pistols (separate scoring categories).

    IF there's sufficient interest I might add pistol crossbows, too.

    Jim

    Hi Jim, could you put me down for the pistol shoot. Using a Walther LP53. I'm sure the was only made up to the early 70's.


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    Got'cha down, Phil!

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    Question Pump Up

    Hi Jim
    Serious question. I keep going back to that seriese of pictures on Kranks website. Apart from the desire to own a historic pistol I have spotted this: http://www.henrykrank.com/vap112.html and I want to know what class it falls into. OK for this contest it doesn't matter. But what about the main comp?

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  13. 17-06-2009, 07:43 PM #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Target Bunny View Post
    Hi Jim
    Serious question. I keep going back to that seriese of pictures on Kranks website. Apart from the desire to own a historic pistol I have spotted this: http://www.henrykrank.com/vap112.html and I want to know what class it falls into. OK for this contest it doesn't matter. But what about the main comp?

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    Jim, that pistol doesn't appear to be a springer, CO2, or PCP, for sure: and in my opinion, it probably wouldn't qualify as an SSP either. It looks like a Multi (vs. Single) Stroke Pneumatic: aka a "pump-up".

    Main comp doesn't have any categories for same.

    However, my recommendation (just so, not a binding decision) is that because it's akin to an SSP, and because it doesn't offer any advantages over an SSP (probably the other way around, actually), it should be permitted in the SSP category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Target Bunny View Post
    Hi Jim
    Serious question. I keep going back to that seriese of pictures on Kranks website. Apart from the desire to own a historic pistol I have spotted this: http://www.henrykrank.com/vap112.html and I want to know what class it falls into. OK for this contest it doesn't matter. But what about the main comp?

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    This may be the one, copied from Pyramid Air




    The Crosman 130 pneumatic was made from 1953 to 1970. It was a multi-pump pneumatic in .22 caliber, plus a model 137 in .177 was also made. These guns replaced the model 105/106 multi-pump pistols that had been in the Crosman line since 1947. Where the 105/106 guns were conventional in all ways, the 130/137 were groundbreaking new airguns.





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    Thumbs up Crossman 130 Category

    Hi Guys
    OK the Crosman is now mine so where are the targets for the contest Jim McA?
    Or am I going to do them?

    General opinion is that as you only get a single shot to a priming session (6 pumps) this puts it in the SSP group. Think of it as a SSP for wimps.

    Will let you know how it shoots when I've done a strip & lube and had a look at the seals.
    Feels beautiful in the hand and would have sulked if I hadn't adopted it. Only problem is that it seems to be pining for its friend the Titan and I need PCP gear for that making it a larger outlay.

    Just as well Jim McA didnt come with me. They have a couple of cannon for sale.
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