HFT Quiz

[Prone Shooter]

Similar answers to Steve and my answers are not based on UKAHFT rules but on the rule that we (supposedly) do this for fun

What do you think the result from the following situations are;


Situation 1

Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, when attempting to lay down, "bang", accidentally fires pellet 3 feet over the firing line (rifle not shouldered)

I'd allow another chance.

Situation 2

Shooter cocks rifle, forgets to load pellet or pellet falls out, closes bolt, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang"

Zero - it's not an accident, it's not being careful.


Situation 3

Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, leaves bolt open, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang", pellet discharges 10 feet over firing line


Zero - it's not an accident, it's not being careful.

Situation 4

Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, shoulders rifle but doesn't look through scope, knocks rifle against a tree (its a stander) "bang", pellet goes into bushes 50 yards away

I'd allow another chance.


Situation 5

Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, fires, "bang", kills target, looks up to see a "Kneeling Only" sign above him. (Sorry Chris, in this one none of his shooting partners had noticed the sign either as they were "in the groove", they would have told him had they noticed)

Another zero as you should have taken more care. Exactly the same scenario as shooting the wrong target.

So what is the outcome of the 5 situations, lets say in the strictest form of the rules, say the 2020 Olympics, I know we would all interpret the above a little differently if it was a friendly sunday morning shoot with your mates

And as I said above, this is only a bit of fun...

1 and 4 are accidental discharges, the others muppetry

Bob

[jagxkrs]

Lots and lots of luvly donuts and swearing

[Gold]

Similar answers to Steve and my answers are not based on UKAHFT rules but on the rule that we (supposedly) do this for fun



1 and 4 are accidental discharges, the others muppetry

Bob

So an accidental discharge is not muppetry Negligent discharge, not accidental and completely irresponsible, disqualification for failing to adhere to basic gun safety guidelines,
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Cliff

[skygrowler]

how about the shooter forgets to release the safety , as far as he/she is concerned the shot was taken or not ?

[Steve L]

how about the shooter forgets to release the safety , as far as he/she is concerned the shot was taken or not ?

If no shot has been taken as the saftey is still engaged, flick saftey off & contnue as if you do it all the time

[mattinlondon]

OK as Scooby said earlier, if the gun goes "bang" its a shot, end off, no more goes, no retakes, no excuses, all score ZERO........in any comp we should all adhere to these rules, it just isnt fair if you dont! Why should some guy get another go, kill the target and get 2 more points and end up higher on the results?

I know it has happened before (recently) and will happen again Im sure, but I hope not as often in comps as Steve says "that are badge winners"

I love my badgers..

[Steve L]

So an accidental discharge is not muppetry Negligent discharge, not accidental and completely irresponsible, disqualification for failing to adhere to basic gun safety guidelines,
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Cliff

Very true Cliff & i have had the situation happen to me at a shoot, i was prone & another shooter was slightly behind me on the next peg, loads a pellet & it accidently went off, don't know what happened but it went about 3 feet in front of me Of course I just carried on, knocked down the target & then asked my shooting partner WT F happened.. he didn't know but it was bleedy close enough for me to watch my back on the next few shots

[Prone Shooter]

So an accidental discharge is not muppetry Negligent discharge, not accidental and completely irresponsible, disqualification for failing to adhere to basic gun safety guidelines,
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Cliff

In both scenarios, the gun is over the firing line and therefore considered safe and has not been sighted. Discharge in any other circumstance would be considered a breach of safety. If its a genuine accidental discharge i'd allow a reload.

As I've said in my first reply, we're supposed to take part in these events for fun. If you've just driven 200 miles to be disquailified or had a chance of a win in those circumstances thwarted for whats effectively an accident then I think you'd have a right to be pissed off.

IMO there's far to many rules being introduced for the sake of introducing rules.

When Hunter FT started you could use any rifle as long as it was legal, you couldn't adjust the gun or any part of it, you had to be touching a peg, not sitting and not resting rifle on bean bag and targets were placed anywhere between 7-45 yards (or thereabouts) with a minimum of a 25mm kill. If you sighted the gun and it discharged, the target either fell for a 2, you plated for a 1 or you missed. Simple

I make that 7 rules. It was simple and didn't cause controversy. Everyone knew where they stood and no one pushed the rules that where in place (that I recall anyway)

It was more fun in my mind, you turned up to shoot with like minded folk who just wanted to knock over some targets and if they got a good score then great. Clearing a course was unheard of and people didn't expect to get 59 or 60 ex 60.

Rose tinted specs maybe or I'm just getting old and dissolusioned but it did seem less stressful back in the early to mid '90s.

Bob