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    HFT Quiz

    A few things came to light at the Woofters over the weekend when I was chatting with some fellow competitors.

    Now this is not a dig at any competitor, competition, organiser or organisation, its just a bit of fun and hopefully may educate some of us!


    What do you think the result from the following situations are;


    Situation 1

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, when attempting to lay down, "bang", accidentally fires pellet 3 feet over the firing line (rifle not shouldered)

    Situation 2

    Shooter cocks rifle, forgets to load pellet or pellet falls out, closes bolt, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang"

    Situation 3

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, leaves bolt open, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang", pellet discharges 10 feet over firing line

    Situation 4

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, shoulders rifle but doesn't look through scope, knocks rifle against a tree (its a stander) "bang", pellet goes into bushes 50 yards away

    Situation 5

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, fires, "bang", kills target, looks up to see a "Kneeling Only" sign above him. (Sorry Chris, in this one none of his shooting partners had noticed the sign either as they were "in the groove", they would have told him had they noticed)

    So what is the outcome of the 5 situations, lets say in the strictest form of the rules, say the 2020 Olympics, I know we would all interpret the above a little differently if it was a friendly sunday morning shoot with your mates

    And as I said above, this is only a bit of fun...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattinlondon View Post
    A few things came to light at the Woofters over the weekend when I was chatting with some fellow competitors.

    Now this is not a dig at any competitor, competition, organiser or organisation, its just a bit of fun and hopefully may educate some of us!


    What do you think the result from the following situations are;


    Situation 1

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, when attempting to lay down, "bang", accidentally fires pellet 3 feet over the firing line (rifle not shouldered)

    Situation 2

    Shooter cocks rifle, forgets to load pellet or pellet falls out, closes bolt, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang"

    Situation 3

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, leaves bolt open, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang", pellet discharges 10 feet over firing line

    Situation 4

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, shoulders rifle but doesn't look through scope, knocks rifle against a tree (its a stander) "bang", pellet goes into bushes 50 yards away

    Situation 5

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, fires, "bang", kills target, looks up to see a "Kneeling Only" sign above him. (Sorry Chris, in this one none of his shooting partners had noticed the sign either as they were "in the groove", they would have told him had they noticed)

    So what is the outcome of the 5 situations, lets say in the strictest form of the rules, say the 2020 Olympics, I know we would all interpret the above a little differently if it was a friendly sunday morning shoot with your mates

    And as I said above, this is only a bit of fun...
    A not-so-fun zero for every situation I'd have said.

    Unless the shooter states they are going to discharge the shot deliberately it's a miss.

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    Situation 1

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, when attempting to lay down, "bang", accidentally fires pellet 3 feet over the firing line (rifle not shouldered)

    I would like to say take it again, but the rules say you get a 0 i believe.
    Situation 2

    Shooter cocks rifle, forgets to load pellet or pellet falls out, closes bolt, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang"

    Doughnut i'm afraid
    Situation 3

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, leaves bolt open, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang", pellet discharges 10 feet over firing line
    Doughnut again
    Situation 4

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, shoulders rifle but doesn't look through scope, knocks rifle against a tree (its a stander) "bang", pellet goes into bushes 50 yards away
    Same as answer 1
    Situation 5

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, fires, "bang", kills target, looks up to see a "Kneeling Only" sign above him. (Sorry Chris, in this one none of his shooting partners had noticed the sign either as they were "in the groove", they would have told him had they noticed)
    Same as answer 1 again

    In the rules i'm pretty sure they are all doughnuts, if it was a non-badge/trophy comp i'd prob let them slide though, UKAHFT/SHS/SIHFT then they are 0, young Beth forgot to load a pellet at the Oaks for the SIHFT, that cost her a doughnut

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattinlondon View Post
    A few things came to light at the Woofters over the weekend when I was chatting with some fellow competitors.

    Now this is not a dig at any competitor, competition, organiser or organisation, its just a bit of fun and hopefully may educate some of us!


    What do you think the result from the following situations are;


    Situation 1

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, when attempting to lay down, "bang", accidentally fires pellet 3 feet over the firing line (rifle not shouldered)

    Situation 2

    Shooter cocks rifle, forgets to load pellet or pellet falls out, closes bolt, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang"

    Situation 3

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, leaves bolt open, shoulders rifle, takes aim, fires, "bang", pellet discharges 10 feet over firing line

    Situation 4

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, shoulders rifle but doesn't look through scope, knocks rifle against a tree (its a stander) "bang", pellet goes into bushes 50 yards away

    Situation 5

    Shooter cocks rifle, loads pellet, closes bolt, fires, "bang", kills target, looks up to see a "Kneeling Only" sign above him. (Sorry Chris, in this one none of his shooting partners had noticed the sign either as they were "in the groove", they would have told him had they noticed)

    So what is the outcome of the 5 situations, lets say in the strictest form of the rules, say the 2020 Olympics, I know we would all interpret the above a little differently if it was a friendly sunday morning shoot with your mates

    And as I said above, this is only a bit of fun...
    Hi you've been spying on me; come on admit it. Zeroes all round is my bet Tony

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    It's the same result for all five.......you get a zero

    There's no interpretation at all, it goes back to the same rule.....if the rifle goes bang then the shot has been taken & the target will be scored appropriately.

    The only exception is if you wish to fire a shot into the ground & this should only ever be done after informing your partner.

    Any other outcome in an event being run to UKAHFT rules is going against the rules & I'm afraid would have to be classed as cheating.

    This may seem harsh but many of these situations can easily be used to benefit some shooters, I could miss a target completely & then claim there was no pellet in the rifle or I could go prone on a kneeler to see where to aim then take the shot again kneeling. The rules are there to ensure that everyone is competing on a level playing field, if people start interpreting the rules as they seem fit then it becomes unfair as people will interpret them differently & some will use it to their advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    It's the same result for all five.......you get a zero

    There's no interpretation at all, it goes back to the same rule.....if the rifle goes bang then the shot has been taken & the target will be scored appropriately.

    The only exception is if you wish to fire a shot into the ground & this should only ever be done after informing your partner.

    Any other outcome in an event being run to UKAHFT rules is going against the rules & I'm afraid would have to be classed as cheating.

    This may seem harsh but many of these situations can easily be used to benefit some shooters, I could miss a target completely & then claim there was no pellet in the rifle or I could go prone on a kneeler to see where to aim then take the shot again kneeling. The rules are there to ensure that everyone is competing on a level playing field, if people start interpreting the rules as they seem fit then it becomes unfair as people will interpret them differently & some will use it to their advantage.

    I hope everyone taking part in HFT comps past and future reads this Pete!!!

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    2 points for each situation, possibly 3 if you're having a bad day

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    Atlast something that wasn't my fault , I wasn't there and I have an alibi !

    In my opinion Matt it's the same for all of the above mate , a big fat zero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooby View Post
    It's the same result for all five.......you get a zero

    There's no interpretation at all, it goes back to the same rule.....if the rifle goes bang then the shot has been taken & the target will be scored appropriately.

    The only exception is if you wish to fire a shot into the ground & this should only ever be done after informing your partner.

    Any other outcome in an event being run to UKAHFT rules is going against the rules & I'm afraid would have to be classed as cheating.

    This may seem harsh but many of these situations can easily be used to benefit some shooters, I could miss a target completely & then claim there was no pellet in the rifle or I could go prone on a kneeler to see where to aim then take the shot again kneeling. The rules are there to ensure that everyone is competing on a level playing field, if people start interpreting the rules as they seem fit then it becomes unfair as people will interpret them differently & some will use it to their advantage.
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    The definitive result for any of these situations =

    Hang head in shame, stop wearing anything camouflaged, sell all shooting gear and take up Golf!
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    PS If you get a nought for firing without a pellet when you have no chance of hitting the target surely you should get minus one for missing when a pellet is fired and at least has a chance of hitting home
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    Please excuse my interjection as a mere FT shooter, but I do think you should all give consideration to Gold's interpretation of Situation 1

    1) Disqualification for ND

    Range safety is something you can never have too much of

    Regards

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoolId View Post
    Please excuse my interjection as a mere FT shooter, but I do think you should all give consideration to Gold's interpretation of Situation 1

    1) Disqualification for ND

    Range safety is something you can never have too much of

    Regards

    Dave
    I've seen the same thing happen in FT Dave a few times, never seen them DQ'd though

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