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    Hi Morgan....Its a repairable item, but the only downside is you have to use an alloyed filler rod with a high resistance to cracking, to get the best mechanical results and to ensure a permenant job...I would use something like a CastoTIG 45612 W filler rod.....its a nickle alloy, which means the weld will not take a blueing solution.....The process to use is tig welding, and the cracks should be perfectly clean and degreased, and butted up tight...the barrel is blanked off with metal tape, as are the cocking slot and rear of the cylinder, plus all screw holes....you feed argon down the barrel and put some pin holes in the tape at the back to let the gas escape under control, thus ensuring the back of the weld joint is protected from the atmosphere (contamination!)....the weld should be right through the wll thickness, and will need cleaning out......this is also a pain as the threads need to be redone.......If it is welded, and the weld does not penetrate through, it will crack again in time. A different way would be to make a shaped patch and cover the cracked area, but this obviously would detract from the appearance and value.......depends if you just want it as a shooter.

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    Hi Ed,

    Many thanks for the info.
    If I get it done, I'll ask the welder what he thinks and see if he is speaking the right words first.
    Is a tap obtainable for the thread size and will it cut weld in situ.

    Atb Morgan
    "helplessly they stare at his tracks......."

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    edbear2 Guest
    Hi Morgan......thats what makes it a pain,..the thread really has to be recut on a lathe. You have also really to use a carbide insert tool, and as you are travelling along the original thread, and then hitting weld, it all has to be done very carefully, and there is a risk of damaging, or enlarging, the original thread, which makes the trigger block fit looser. I have only ever done one of these like this, and we had a great old boy on the lathe....it worked O.K., but its not a quick job.....if your cracks are short, and very fine, You could drill a 2-2.5mm hole at the ends...and then put in a bit of dark metal filler....the holes will stop the cracks growing, and all you will see is little dark circle, which is hard to notice (the edges of the holes, inside and outside should be deburred carefully so there are no sharp edges)......Ed

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    Many Thanks !
    "helplessly they stare at his tracks......."

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    Update.......finally got around to getting it all finished, as I thought there was a little more to do in the way of machining.....the piston slot at the front needed a bit of work, as the cocking arm would not return fully when cocked

    Anyway....after seeing Johns cracking REAL example at Bisley, I realise that the tiny 11 stock is the thing that really makes these so cute.....but I am quite happy with mine.....It is for the missus, as she is 4'11", and even a L model is slightly too long for her

    I found a nice dual element BSA sight for up front, and have used Birchwood plum brown as a finish......It really does look old, and handling will only add to this.

    The extra 1/4" in the cylinder length over an L has hardly made a difference, but it is lovely and smooth, and running at 610 fps, so not bad for a tiddler.

    I have posted some more pics showing its size in relation to a 45" D, and also next to a 39" one (how it started before I got the saw out).....also the cocking arm showing the lincoln stamp (a pain cutting it into 5 pieces, but I am glad I did)

    next project may be a stripping guide in photos, I feel guilty at how much work GGGR has been doing!!!!

    Click on "all sizes" icon to see larger piccys.....

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/3122848...7616789686347/

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    Ed, it looks COOL!

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    Green eye

    I have serious case of green eye monster for the lovely rifle and your skill in producing such a wonderful creation. I'm sure BSA would have been proud the add "The Improved Model E.D." to their range! Nice one Eddy. Caddy

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