Defiants

[ratgunner]

Bought a 1,000 4.52 Defiants for a thorough testing,

very accurate was first impression (be it noted I don't hunt)

Used in these guns sub 12ft lbs at 52yds

BSA Ultra

FX Typhoon

Brocock Contour

At this range all guns lacked hitting power due to lack of pellet weight, but very accurate wind not too much of an issue as pellet is so short,

Moved downrange to 35yds

Tack drivers in all Guns on paper targets

Grouping excellent, but for HFT etc need more weight to truly kill the tin chickens,

If I could get a heavy at the same price I would buy bulk,

All my Gas Pistols Love them, 5p groups as fast as I can pull the trigger at 6yds (takes practice)

Though to be fair JSR Geco's at 230p a tin rule the day,

Cheers All,

Ratty.

[RobF]

The groups from the dommy were only slightly bigger than the box the test packs came in at 55yds.

[Dave Ramshead]

The groups from the dommy were only slightly bigger than the box the test packs came in at 55yds.

nice

[Pod]

The groups from the dommy were only slightly bigger than the box the test packs came in at 55yds.

Well that's dommys for ya

[Gungeek]

Nice.

Yeah, cr@p. Regards ... Geek

[Kes]

Grouping excellent, but for HFT etc need more weight to truly kill the tin chickens,

Ratty.

Eh?

[Gungeek]

Eh?

Nah, don't even try to work it out mate, you'll hurt yourself. Regards ... Geek

[Kes]

Nah, don't even try to work it out mate, you'll hurt yourself. Regards ... Geek

But I don't want to try and work it out Paul. I want him to tell me.

[Dave Ramshead]

But I don't want to try and work it out Paul. I want him to tell me.

"Everyone" knows you need proper stopping power for targets, otherwise they don't go down. T'is why .22 is so popular for FT & HFT.

[RabbitSniper22]

i thought daystate where stopping making the rangemasters in .177 due to poor sales i found them surprisingly good and very effective on squidgey's heads at 35yrds

[Pod]

i thought daystate where stopping making the rangemasters in .177 due to poor sales i found them surprisingly good and very effective on squidgey's heads at 35yrds

Yes. A real pity. My Air Wolf loves the 4.50 ones.

When I had it confirmed that Daystate were not commissioning anymore, I bought about 30 tubs!

[Button]

I tried .177 in my T10 scorpion at 50m. A lot of the shots were wedged in the backstop sideways...Some even entered backwards! Terrible. i could actaully see them wabbling their way awkwardly down the range and many of them missed my target sheet altogether.

But they seem to do well in my gamo compact pistol, oddly.

Similarly I've tested the .22 U bolt...I had hoped the lighter weight would carry them down range faster. I use an up-turned picnic table at home for a backstop, i gave up after about 30 shots when they could even hit that!

I have now gone in the opposite direction. Magnum pellets all the way, much more stable at longer ranges with greater energy retension for that satisfying punch at the target.

J

[steve R]

as said in FAC the 18g are awesome, with a handsome thwack on the target