Which CO2 Pistol?

[Hemmers]

I'm thinking of geting a CO2 pistol for some fun, and maybe even doing some of the UBC postals as I've moved house and am quite a way from my nearest rifle club, so the .22 target rifle shooting will become a little less frequent for the time being at least. I've got a long cowshed which would make a great 10m range.

Asking for advice as I don't know an awful lot about them, although I've shot an Umarex/Walther PPK which was great fun.

I like the looks of the CP88 and CP99. What's to choose between them? I think they both have single and double action triggers, and I'm led to believe you can add accesories and sights to both. I also understand the CP99 has a funky magazine type thing for the CO2 canister, so you can unload and make safe without wasting the remaining CO2. Does it work well or piss gas everywhere through the extra joints that I imagine must be required between "magazine" and gun. Does the CP88 have this system as well, or a more traditional arrangement?

And what are the alternatives?

Many thanks,
Hemmers

[Garry]

There's a couple of recent threads about co2 repeaters which might give you some info:

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374948

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=379564

I tried 2 cp99's in a couple of shops. The first one seemed ok, but the trigger pull on the other was really hard and threw the gun off to the right.

Umarex S&W revolvers seem to be highly regarded, but a bit heavy on co2.

[hyperlink]

I am fair new but my personal preference is for a Beretta or Colt. I find the CP88 a little on the small side but still nice to shoot. The Beretta is more "chunky" in the hand and the Colt is somewhere between for me. Not used a CP99 or the S&W so can't comment on them.

No the CP88 is the same CO2 system as the Colt/Beretta i.e. not like the CP99

[Jim McArthur]

I am many others like tthe Umarex Smith 586/686 revolvers: full size and weight, solidly constructed, 10 shots, choice of blue or nickel finish, of 4, 6, or 8 inch barrels. They'll take red dot sights, and are very accurate.

Trigger takes some getting used to: rather stiff.

Jim

[Phil G]

I go along with Jim, the S & W is a beaut'. After that I would rate the 6" CP88, nice trigger and balance.

Ideally you should try before you buy.

Good luck, Phil

[bassmanrich]

Hi mate, Im in the same situ as you. I can't get to te local club so i have only pistols. Right Co2, by far the most accurate of the copies is the S & W. If your looking for accuracy which you may do, then even this wont really do. What i have done is got a real S & W 79G for accurate target shots, and also on the lookout for a multi shot for fun. What i found with the fun guns, is they are not enough for me, and needed something pretty near full power and very accurate hence the 79G.

I would recomened a good fast fire fun gun, and whatever grabs you in looks as they all make great can blasters, and also something a little special for when your in the 'see how good i can shoot mood'. As far as fun gun goes, take a look at the Anics blackbird. A little more powerful then the others and 28 shots.

Its just my veiws, hope it helps,

Rich.

[Jim McArthur]

What i have done is got a real S & W 79G for accurate target shots, and also on the lookout for a multi shot for fun. What i found with the fun guns, is they are not enough for me, and needed something pretty near full power and very accurate hence the 79G.

I would recomened a good fast fire fun gun, and whatever grabs you in looks as they all make great can blasters, and also something a little special for when your in the 'see how good i can shoot mood'.

Its just my veiws, hope it helps,

Rich.

Great ideas, Rich! Get one for fast action fun, one for more serious target work. That way you have both situations covered.

Cheers!

Jim

[Firestorm]

Hi Hemmers,

Not had my 88 long, but it's a nice bit of kit.

Had a go with the 99, bit too bulky for my little mitts, and the triggers not as nice imo. I'd go for the 6" 88 with comp sights.

Hi Jim
Trigger still stiff mate, you want to watch out fella, it'll keep going off in your hand, just when you don't want it to.

atb
Russ

[Red Dot]

S&W 6" Barrel

[Jim McArthur]

Hi Jim
Trigger still stiff mate, you want to watch out fella, it'll keep going off in your hand, just when you don't want it to.

atb
Russ

Jim

[Ranyhyn]

on a £100 - 120 budget i'd go for a CP88 in 6" variety or colt match 6"
(they come up on here second hand)
This would give a good capacity for both bulls eye and fast fire comps.

If you are a revolver dude the only option is the S&W in 6 or 8"

If you've got a buck the Zastava GP/Drulov or Aeron 5 shot or Rhomm.

The CP 99 rotary mag has the hardest trigger pull of all the umarex replica range.

Or get a walther ppk/s or cp99 compact blowback, and rebarrel with a bit of rifled barrel and shoot gamo round lead balls.

[Powderfinger]

As others have said, I highly recommend the Umarex S&W 586 if you really want a CO2 pistol. However, for real plinking fun any of the old Webley pistols are my favourite choice and much cheaper to run.

[thechemist]

I'm thinking of geting a CO2 pistol for some fun, and maybe even doing some of the UBC postals as I've moved house and am quite a way from my nearest rifle club, so the .22 target rifle shooting will become a little less frequent for the time being at least. I've got a long cowshed which would make a great 10m range.

Asking for advice as I don't know an awful lot about them, although I've shot an Umarex/Walther PPK which was great fun.

I like the looks of the CP88 and CP99. What's to choose between them? I think they both have single and double action triggers, and I'm led to believe you can add accesories and sights to both. I also understand the CP99 has a funky magazine type thing for the CO2 canister, so you can unload and make safe without wasting the remaining CO2. Does it work well or piss gas everywhere through the extra joints that I imagine must be required between "magazine" and gun. Does the CP88 have this system as well, or a more traditional arrangement?

And what are the alternatives?

Many thanks,
Hemmers

Tough choice! Depends what power you are looking for and how much accuracy you want (and what you want to pay). The S&W is probably the most accurate multi shot (if you want the 8 inch barrel you'll have to get it secondhand, I've just ordered a 6 inch and my RFD tells me the 8 inch is no longer available new).

Multi shot power-wise, the Skif A3000 LB comes in at about 4.2ftlb and more with BB's, but most retailers have stopped selling them coz of reliabilty issues. Similar accuracy to S&W in single action mode but more like a shotgun pattern in rapid fire! If you can get a good secondhand one that doesn't jam you won't pick up a CP88 etc. again!

If you are looking for pinpoint accuracy then as far as CO2 is concerned it would have to be the Crosman EB22 (single shot 5.5ftlb). I've put pellet on pellet with mine at 8 yards and 0.5 inch groups at 10 yards.

Good luck with what ever you buy!