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    While I can the arguments both for and against I have another pressing concern. If I got one of these, and they do look and sound nice, would I be able to use it in the UBC comps? As far as I can see there is no category for MSP's.

    On the same thread that goods being manufactured in a supposedly "cheaper" country, Take a look at the world of golf. Callaway are producers of some of the most expensive kit in golf, yet all their kit is made in China the same is true of Taylor Made. The quality of both of these is superb. |There are cheaper clones of these clubs also made in China but the finish and build quality is not as good. To some people it is the look of a leading manufacturer at a substantially cheaper price, others will happily pay the price for the extra quality of finish. There is a difference, as there is a difference in the spec and quality of the HW40 compared to the Beeman version.

    You do ultimately get what you pay for IMHO.

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    UBC Comp

    Yes you can use it.
    The precedent was set by my C130 in the vintage shoots. The contest organiser asked the committee if multi pump was admissable and the reply was that most people could see no advantage in multi over single pump. In fact it was thought to be the other way round if anything.
    Just remember that this is an untried pistol and it may not be good for anything except plinking.
    I have asked the rep to come to the UBC meet but so far no reply.

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    Without getting involved in the argument.

    I would imagine there will be a version marketed as hatsan for 30-40% less. If there is I will be buying one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schnakey View Post
    Without getting involved in the argument.

    I would imagine there will be a version marketed as hatsan for 30-40% less. If there is I will be buying one.
    You sir, have a very good point there!
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    Question British made ??

    All this talk about where guns are produced, how many of you are on the net with british made computers we all know they come from china or far east in general, same goes for all your electronic gear, the clothes you wear,
    & quite a lot of cars, give the new owners of webley a chance, yes the pistol produced by the previous owners was Rubbish, lets not decry this one till we get our hands on it, & just maybe if the company gets on its feet they'll start making in the UK again. To many people in this country defeatist & negative,
    Oh and by the way a Lot of euro guns have parts made in turkey & china with just final assy & packing in europe so that they can claim ther european, including Very pricey target guns...mike...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickson View Post
    All this talk about where guns are produced, how many of you are on the net with british made computers we all know they come from china or far east in general, same goes for all your electronic gear, the clothes you wear,
    & quite a lot of cars, give the new owners of webley a chance, yes the pistol produced by the previous owners was Rubbish, lets not decry this one till we get our hands on it, & just maybe if the company gets on its feet they'll start making in the UK again. To many people in this country defeatist & negative,
    Oh and by the way a Lot of euro guns have parts made in turkey & china with just final assy & packing in europe so that they can claim ther european, including Very pricey target guns...mike...
    The problem with computers is that nobody makes computers in the west any more, so we don't have the option of buying British. We did have the option of buying British, with air pistols, until recently. The fact that electronics, clothes, and everything else is made abroad should make it more important to buy British where we can, not less, a country needs a broad range of industries and skills, currently we are losing ours and we need to do what we can where possible, not just roll over and say "well, me computer's chinese, so are me clothes, might as well buy a foreign airgun too."

    I'm not being defeatist either, as I have said, if either Webley or BSA starts making a pistol in the UK I will buy one, pronto. I will not buy a foreign-made airgun that I consider to be overpriced by unscrupulous businessmen trying to make money out of a brand-name. Not that I'm saying that is what is going on here, I'll wait and see on that score, all I am saying at the moment is that in my opinion this gun is too expensive for what it is, just as the other Webley's turkish made Longbows were too expensive (pitched at a price higher than the original Webley was selling British-made ones for!).

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    To clarify my former post on this thread, the 'Alecto' is a rebadged product, not Hatsan, but has not yet been made available under any other company's name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schnakey View Post
    Without getting involved in the argument.

    I would imagine there will be a version marketed as hatsan for 30-40% less. If there is I will be buying one.
    Quite probably, but I'm sure it won't the fully adjustable sights or the multi adjustable trigger. The Beeman version of the HW40 doesnt have the Tru Glo
    sights

    It's not WHERE it's made, it's HOW it's made that matters to me! If it costs me more, so be it.

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    If its designed / engineered well then its probably fair value - the end user will decide once we see it in the flesh..

    BUT does anyone know if their is a LH / ambi version on the way ? - otherwise I defo wont be buying one

    ATB Simon

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    I agree with Rob M. This seems very expensive for a pistol made in a cheap-labour country that is only useable for plinking or informal competitions. The ultimate irony is that you can buy a good-condition Hurricane or Tempest for much less and the Hurricane/Tempest will probably teach the owner far more about how to shoot a pistol properly. For not much more than the cost of the new Webley, it might even be possible to find an FWB65 and that is the greatest air-pistol of all time. I wish Webley luck and have a sentimental attachment to the brand but they will have to do better than this to survive in a market that is crowded with plinking air-pistols.

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