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Is a fettled (preferably Bowketted) BSA Mercury 'S' a match for the Feinwerkbau Sport? The .22 I had, once the sears were polished up, had a very acceptable trigger unit. The heavy barrel is nice too, my reservation is the 'O' ring on the piston unit. A nice parachute like that fitted to later BSAs would be the way to go.
I know IJ has both rifles, and so does RustyBuzz. Whats the score then? Much prefer the chunky breech lock-up on BSAs to the effete FWB arrangement.
You can't say muntjack without saying mmmmm
I can't speak for the FWB Sport, but a Mercury S in 177 was the first rifle I bought with my own money (£65 from a company called "The Mart" by mail order) and it was a fabulous rifle that served me well for about 21 years until I bought a house and had to turn the majority of my air rifle collection in to furniture to sit on and eat off.
If any one on the forum has BSA Mercury S serial number WH 01266, I'd dearly love to buy it back.
The South of England has 2 good things, the M1 and the A1. Both will take you to Yorkshire.
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I have owned a selection of Sports and Mercurys. I agree that the Mercury (especially the S) is in many ways a match for the Sport. The handling is excellent and it comes to the shoulder like a shotgun. The open sights are pretty good. I like the fact that the Mercury does not have an irritating semi-auto safety. The fit and finish are acceptable and the trigger on later Mercurys is very good, especially with a polish. But...those damned shallow and short scope rails are a PIA and are the worst feature of an otherwise excellent airgun. The late Mercurys addressed this problem by fitting a proper scope rail but it was too little too late.
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Ooh ... This one is too close to call, so I will sit back and be a spectator as this thread unfolds and keep me gob shut. Neither are a patch on a fettled Omega however, or a fettled Longbow, but thats another story (am currently conducting a long term Pepsi challenge between these two iconic Webleys, the findings of which I will report on around January
). Atb: G.
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may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
I can't take Webleys seriously, especially since they name their guns after fish-oil and cheap cider.Originally Posted by Gareth W-B
Ooh ... This one is too close to call, so I will sit back and be a spectator as this thread unfolds and keep me gob shut
Actually, I've got an Eclipse needs restoring in the cupboard... should type a bit quieter really...
The names are 'dooming' as well - the Omega - 'the end of' (Webley) and the Eclipse (Weihrauch and Air Arms 'eclipsed' Webley nicely).
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Alistair my friend , you are the Troll of Trolls ... In fact ... Give it five mins, then look up. Ha ha ha ...
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On handing over a pre-production sample for review, the then sales manager of Webley explained to me that the Omega name implied the 'last word' in airguns.
Ay oar keed, wheers me ponts?
You cad sir,you bounder(slips right hand out of white glove and slaps Mr ee about his countenance with said White glove) anymore talk like this and it will be pistols at dawn!!! Webley Tempest or Typhoon its your choice
You can try my Longbow against ANY springer if you like
Muddled
Cloase call.
Properly lubricated, which all guns should be, I think this is a rare fault but the lock up wedge can be replaced if/when worn.
Five minutes work when the rifle is stripped soon has the auto feature removed and made manual. While I am not a lover of safety catches (the only safe gun ......) it does have its uses.
Even closer call. While the Omega is good it just looses out to the 'Sport but beats the 'S' due to the sloped trigger block on the BSA which can cause scope alignment problem. The Sport looses out on both due to the poor (plastic) open sights but most people fit scopes anyway.
Now the adjustable gas rammed Omega ... well.
ATB
Ian
Founder & ex secretary of Rivington Riflemen.
www.rivington-riflemen.uk
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How dare ye rubbish the Webley product. I have a Patriot that makes a Weihrauch or Feinwerkbau look like they were finished by Gamo! A rifle that at 30 yards can still put 5 shots in 3/4" while putting out almost 30ft/lb at the muzzle and putting the absolute kapow on the jolly ol' squirrel!
P.S. I can't think of a German air weapon that beats the name Patriot.
Webley Vulcan .22, Webley Tempest .177, Beeman Kodiak .25, Beeman R9 .177, Weihrauch HW30 .177, Slavia 618 .177, Colt Commander .45ACP, Browning Hi-Power 9mm, Bushmaster AR-15 5.56/.223
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I had FWB 124 in the early 80s. My mate had a standard Mercury. No comparison in quality or accuracy FWB wins any way up. A fine quality rifle. The Merc was not much further down the road than a Meteor. Not suggesting it was not a good un but different league IMO.
may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
Not the STANDARD Mercury, the 'S' version, the heavy-barrel, walnut stocked, breech-bolted, two-stage trigger MERCURY-S.
The standard Mercurys were horrid.
Likes a bit of Pumping
That's a bit harsh Alistair!
My early MK 1 .177 is a beauty
Opportunity is missed by most people, because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.
may also be employed in conjunction with a drawn reciprocation dingle arm, to reduce sinusoidal repleneration
1.Baked-on paint finish instead of blueingThat's a bit harsh Alistair!
My early MK 1 .177 is a beauty
2.Bendy black plakky trigger
3. Plain beech slabby stock made of wood rejected by school desk manufacturers
4. Breech pin instead of bolt allowing loosening of breech jaws and consequent inaccuracy
5. Plastic sights that broke when you wiped them over with a cloth
6. Scope grooves so shallow that would only hold a cheap 4x20 3/4" telescopic sight, all others would slide down the rail and lose zero after three shots.
They were horrid for the reasons stated above. I think you have the rose-tinted spectacles on, also you may be drunk.
The Mercury-S and the Challenger corrected all these faults, but alas too late.
Just IMHO of course!
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Hi
Personally i dont think either of them equal the Hyprdene systems 4100 in .177.
Regards
Bernie
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