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    Can I do this?

    I'm a little confused over this. When I'm shooting the comps, 6yd & 10mtr, I know I'm not allowed to rest the pistol, But can I rest the barrel of my Smith 8" on my forearm or even hold the barrel?

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    YES, when a 2-hand hold is permitted. NO, in the 1-hand phase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shootist View Post
    I'm a little confused over this. When I'm shooting the comps, 6yd & 10mtr, I know I'm not allowed to rest the pistol, But can I rest the barrel of my Smith 8" on my forearm or even hold the barrel?

    Paul

    Hi Paul, just my two cents worth
    I'm not sure if resting the pistol on your forearm is a 'two-handed' grip. Is it comfortable?

    Holding the barrel would be 'two-handed', but a bad habit to get into. If you ever got to shoot a cartridge pistol the cylinder bast could be painful to you.

    Try the 'Weaver' stance.

    Check out the web or Youtube

    Good luck, Phil






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    Hi Phil, it's suprisingly comfortable when you are trying to hold up an 8" barrel

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shootist View Post
    it's suprisingly comfortable when you are trying to hold up an 8"

    'nuff said


    Good luck, Phil






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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil G View Post
    Hi Paul, just my two cents worth
    I'm not sure if resting the pistol on your forearm is a 'two-handed' grip. Is it comfortable?

    Holding the barrel would be 'two-handed', but a bad habit to get into. If you ever got to shoot a cartridge pistol the cylinder bast could be painful to you.

    Try the 'Weaver' stance.

    Check out the web or Youtube

    Good luck, Phil

    Very true about the cartridge pistol!

    What could be even worse - and something you are more likely to encounter as a UK shooter: I was just a few minutes ago reading an article warning against placing the supporting hand forward of the cylinder of a percussion revolver equipped with a shoulder stock.

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    Hi all,

    My only comment would be that; I thought all shots were to be taken with the pistol held at arms length. I don't see how that could be achieved with the barrel resting on the forearm

    I might just be misunderstanding the usage of the term 'at arms length'

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shootist View Post
    I'm a little confused over this. When I'm shooting the comps, 6yd & 10mtr, I know I'm not allowed to rest the pistol, But can I rest the barrel of my Smith 8" on my forearm or even hold the barrel?

    Paul

    Hi Paul.

    As I see it. You are actually resting the pistol on the forearm, which in the >Rules< states you can't.

    Holding the barrel would class as two handed. However considering the pistol has to be at arms length I can't see it as being comfortable.

    So in conclusion it may be better trying the weaver stance that Phil G linked you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pad. E View Post
    Hi Paul.

    As I see it. You are actually resting the pistol on the forearm, which in the >Rules< states you can't.

    Holding the barrel would class as two handed. However considering the pistol has to be at arms length I can't see it as being comfortable.

    So in conclusion it may be better trying the weaver stance that Phil G linked you.

    Regards
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    OK, I'll retract my "it's OK for 2-handed phase" comment, as applied to the Bullseye comps.

    I don't see that it'd be a problems with Police, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim McArthur View Post
    OK, I'll retract my "it's OK for 2-handed phase" comment, as applied to the Bullseye comps.

    I don't see that it'd be a problems with Police, though.

    Jim
    Hi Jim.

    Thanks, didn't mean to over rule you by the way.

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    So if I've read all your comments correctly, it is not allowed some of the time and is allowed some of the time

    Paul

    I suppose we could talk about this at the meet
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Shootist View Post
    So if I've read all your comments correctly, it is not allowed some of the time and is allowed some of the time

    Paul

    I suppose we could talk about this at the meet
    Hi Paul.

    As rules for 6yd/10m

    The pistol must be at arms length & not rested.

    So imagine you are in that postition & envisage you trying hold the barrel or rest it on your forearm. It may not be viable.

    As for Jims Police Pistol comp it dosn't state that & heis happy for you to try it your way.

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    Thanks Paddy, I thought that's what is must be, but the replies were getting a little confusing. I've had a look at the Weaver link as well, that could hold the answer.

    Thanks

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    Jim McArthur is offline Frock coat wearing, riverboat dwelling, southern gent
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    Since the Bullseye (6 yards, 10 meters) rules specify "at arms length", the braced-on-forearm. or other-hand-gripping-barrel stance wouldn't qualify there.

    In the absence of any specific rule to the contrary in the POLICE competition, it would qualify there. However, I would suggest a conventional 2-hand stance (Weaver, isosceles, etc.)

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    Thanks Jim, as I mentioned I was looking at some articles on Weaver and isosceles and have been practicising the latter this evening, not shooting but getting the stance right.

    I'm glad I asked the question now, what seemed to be quite straight forward wasn't, to me anyway.

    Thanks to all of you for your input.

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