Valuation please, Feinwerkbau FWB 124

[mallyally]

I have several FWB MK1's 124 & 127's, I'm not so sure as to your date of 1978 though, I have for example, a mint 127 serial No 25552 which was bought new in London in 1980 by BBS member abewilson from whom I bought the rifle from 2.5 years ago.

The rifle also clearly has a MK11 stock on it and I have never seen a mk1 with a wrap around foresight before ?

You mention 'Spanish Correos' So I can only assume it was imported from Spain, perhaps guns sent there originaly where configured diferently?

Not certain how someone could put a value on it of £ 300 when I only paid £ 260 for a Genuine 'Mint' mk1.

Hope this helps rather than confuses

its definitely a mk 1 but the really early ones had plastic but plates
i paid £150 for a MINTER myself BUT wouldnt sell it for that
and they are fashionable just now

[Muskett]

Thats £230 for the rifle and £70 for the Maccari innards making £300. Which is a fair price for a great rifle. Compared to what you can get new, that's not bad value. You can always bring the price down. Gun values have all gone up 20% in the last year if anyone hadn't noticed.

In Europe 121's are much more common and just not as good looking as deluxe.

I think it is a MKII because its the one I first had in circa 1980/81, and the foresight after the MKI's basic looking thing, plastic trigger or not. Its the British who pushed the MKI/II//III thing and Europeans wouldn't have cared a bit.

[mallyally]

Thats £230 for the rifle and £70 for the Maccari innards making £300. Which is a fair price for a great rifle. Compared to what you can get new, that's not bad value. You can always bring the price down. Gun values have all gone up 20% in the last year if anyone hadn't noticed.

In Europe 121's are much more common and just not as good looking as deluxe.

I think it is a MKII because its the one I first had in circa 1980/81, and the foresight after the MKI's basic looking thing, plastic trigger or not. Its the British who pushed the MKI/II//III thing and Europeans wouldn't have cared a bit.

if it was a Mk 2 it would say on it only the Mk1s dont have the Mk stamped on them

[fairgunner]

if it was a Mk 2 it would say on it only the Mk1s dont have the Mk stamped on them

First time I've ever heard of that - I must check all eight of mine (Different Mk's) again, maybe over the last 28 years since the mk2 was introduced and I first purchased one, I mist this identification, despite having them apart countless times for cleaning/maintenance over the years

Also the MK2's stock was made from a much cheaper piece of beech, the chequering was machine cut & part finished by hand, the pistol grip & cheekpiece were less defined and my first one - the stock split in two at the pistol grip after only a few months

[mallyally]

First time I've ever heard of that - I must check all eight of mine (Different Mk's) again, maybe over the last 28 years since the mk2 was introduced and I first purchased one, I mist this identification, despite having them apart countless times for cleaning/maintenance over the years

Also the MK2's stock was made from a much cheaper piece of beech, the chequering was machine cut & part finished by hand, the pistol grip & cheekpiece were less defined and my first one - the stock split in two at the pistol grip after only a few months

some mk 2s had the same stock as the mk1
its stamped on the breech block

[red bob]

while in a local gun shop the owner who knows my happy obsession with everything fwb said have a look at this model 127 thats come in with the useual fail in that the piston had shattered what took my interest was lts no frills appearence in a dark wood ,she was totaly unmarked and very well looked after and maintained late 1980s?,i very quickly checked to see if she was up for sale but the owner when confronted with a £400 price for a new quality spring rifle retreated to a rebuild of this icon of spring technology .im still in two minds as to owning more than one 124/127;having say 5 or 6 as one or two conasseurshere have would leave me nonplussedas to which to take out first as they are all clawing at me with similer appeal.

[Garvin]

A few comments:

On the valuation I agree with £250 for the rifle/£300 for the combo general ballpark at the prices these things seem to be selling for at the moment. A year ago it might have been £50 less and a year before that maybe another £30 less again!

My 121 sold shortly after I put an ad in the sales section this evening.

I've seen Sports that I'm pretty sure from the serial numbers must have been Mk2s but didn't have the "Series Mk II" stamp on the breech.

121s are certainly more common in Europe than in the UK but only two have come up for sale on egun in the last four years, one of which sold tonight. Very few were made, relative to the 124/127 models.

The wraparound front sights are much less common than the dovetail type but several have appeared on the BBS/other forums in recent years, some of them UK imports.

I've never quite worked out which Mk had which stock - I've seen so many contradictions that I'm a bit skeptical there's a precise stock type per model.

The 1978 date for serial no 28xxx does sound slightly early. Did this date come from FWB itself Nige? I think some of the confusion comes from the fact that UK dealers sometimes sold guns new which were made several years earlier. Not sure why, maybe because they were imported in batches and distribution to the end user took quite a while? I bought a 30xxx serial 127 brand new in 1982....

I think it's brilliant that so many people rate the Sports highly and that there's far more to them than just nostalgia or the famous FWB brand. Despite various faults, their lightness/build quality/power/ease of cocking/tuneability/accuracy etc make them great fun to own and shoot today.

[fairgunner]

some mk 2s had the same stock as the mk1
its stamped on the breech block

'some mk 2s had the same stock as the mk1': Never heard that one before

'its stamped on the breech block': Not on the 3 MK2's I've got its not.

May I ask: are you a friend or relative of Matt from Muxton??

[mallyally]

'some mk 2s had the same stock as the mk1': Never heard that one before

'its stamped on the breech block': Not on the 3 MK2's I've got its not.

May I ask: are you a friend or relative of Matt from Muxton??

what makes you think they are mk2s
every mk2 i have seen has mk2 stamped under
feinwerkbau oberndor / on the breech block
and no relation
ps
now i understand how you got mixed up about the mk of stock on nige's

[Hsing-ee]

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May I ask: are you a friend or relative of Matt from Muxton??

Why, has he got 'Mk 2' stamped on his 'breech block'?

I've also heard that some metal-triggered Mk 2s have got thin-handed Mk 1 stocks but it might be a big fekkin LIE, ask Garvin he usually knows about transition types and the like.