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    I would sell the scope and mounts separately as they don't really add anything to the package. It is not mint in box but a really nice desirable example with the plastic trigger, the nicest looking foresight, and original spring. The Maccari innards is a bonus for those who like shooting their collectables. Its also in my favorite calibre and most accurate especially in a Sport.

    Valuation for rifle £300, as they are in fashion and a Macarri kit is £70. The scope for 60% of what you paid. There are still a good few Sports out there but fewer and fewer in good condition, so the valuation shows the premium as at almost twice the price of an average used one.

    I'm sorely tempted but have one mint and two to shoot. There is a limit. I wouldn't sell it as you just won't get anything nicer to shoot in a springer. The early ones seem to shoot exceptionally tight groups.

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    I have several FWB MK1's 124 & 127's, I'm not so sure as to your date of 1978 though, I have for example, a mint 127 serial No 25552 which was bought new in London in 1980 by BBS member abewilson from whom I bought the rifle from 2.5 years ago.

    The rifle also clearly has a MK11 stock on it and I have never seen a mk1 with a wrap around foresight before ?

    You mention 'Spanish Correos' So I can only assume it was imported from Spain, perhaps guns sent there originaly where configured diferently?

    Not certain how someone could put a value on it of £ 300 when I only paid £ 260 for a Genuine 'Mint' mk1.

    Hope this helps rather than confuses

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    Garvin's got a rare Feinwerkbau Sport 121, almost unused, in similar condition for sale at the moment and it is £220.

    It is the same as the 124 but with the low power German home market spring, a plain stock and no sling swivels.

    £300 might be a little too much for the rifle you describe, but there is only one way to find out what the market will stand....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    Garvin's got a rare Feinwerkbau Sport 121, almost unused, in similar condition for sale at the moment and it is £220.

    It is the same as the 124 but with the low power German home market spring, a plain stock and no sling swivels.

    £300 might be a little too much for the rifle you describe, but there is only one way to find out what the market will stand....
    If they cant afford cake let them eat bread.

    The 121 is rarer but a base model and this UK market, 124 comes with a decent scope and mounts AND open sights.
    Like you say - the only way to find its true value is offer it for sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairgunner View Post
    I have several FWB MK1's 124 & 127's, I'm not so sure as to your date of 1978 though, I have for example, a mint 127 serial No 25552 which was bought new in London in 1980 by BBS member abewilson from whom I bought the rifle from 2.5 years ago.

    The rifle also clearly has a MK11 stock on it and I have never seen a mk1 with a wrap around foresight before ?

    You mention 'Spanish Correos' So I can only assume it was imported from Spain, perhaps guns sent there originaly where configured diferently?

    Not certain how someone could put a value on it of £ 300 when I only paid £ 260 for a Genuine 'Mint' mk1.

    Hope this helps rather than confuses
    its definitely a mk 1 but the really early ones had plastic but plates
    i paid £150 for a MINTER myself BUT wouldnt sell it for that
    and they are fashionable just now

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    Thats £230 for the rifle and £70 for the Maccari innards making £300. Which is a fair price for a great rifle. Compared to what you can get new, that's not bad value. You can always bring the price down. Gun values have all gone up 20% in the last year if anyone hadn't noticed.

    In Europe 121's are much more common and just not as good looking as deluxe.

    I think it is a MKII because its the one I first had in circa 1980/81, and the foresight after the MKI's basic looking thing, plastic trigger or not. Its the British who pushed the MKI/II//III thing and Europeans wouldn't have cared a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muskett View Post
    Thats £230 for the rifle and £70 for the Maccari innards making £300. Which is a fair price for a great rifle. Compared to what you can get new, that's not bad value. You can always bring the price down. Gun values have all gone up 20% in the last year if anyone hadn't noticed.

    In Europe 121's are much more common and just not as good looking as deluxe.

    I think it is a MKII because its the one I first had in circa 1980/81, and the foresight after the MKI's basic looking thing, plastic trigger or not. Its the British who pushed the MKI/II//III thing and Europeans wouldn't have cared a bit.
    if it was a Mk 2 it would say on it only the Mk1s dont have the Mk stamped on them

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    Quote Originally Posted by mallyally View Post
    if it was a Mk 2 it would say on it only the Mk1s dont have the Mk stamped on them
    First time I've ever heard of that - I must check all eight of mine (Different Mk's) again, maybe over the last 28 years since the mk2 was introduced and I first purchased one, I mist this identification, despite having them apart countless times for cleaning/maintenance over the years

    Also the MK2's stock was made from a much cheaper piece of beech, the chequering was machine cut & part finished by hand, the pistol grip & cheekpiece were less defined and my first one - the stock split in two at the pistol grip after only a few months

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairgunner View Post
    First time I've ever heard of that - I must check all eight of mine (Different Mk's) again, maybe over the last 28 years since the mk2 was introduced and I first purchased one, I mist this identification, despite having them apart countless times for cleaning/maintenance over the years

    Also the MK2's stock was made from a much cheaper piece of beech, the chequering was machine cut & part finished by hand, the pistol grip & cheekpiece were less defined and my first one - the stock split in two at the pistol grip after only a few months
    some mk 2s had the same stock as the mk1
    its stamped on the breech block

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    Quote Originally Posted by fairgunner View Post
    Not certain how someone could put a value on it of £ 300 when I only paid £ 260 for a Genuine 'Mint' mk1.
    How long ago?
    Oh, and I did highlight it as a value on the combination (4-12 Gammo scope & mounts).

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    All bar in name then First good rifle I had.

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    value?

    lovely example,and you wont be surprised that in my opinion its priceless,but in the real and cold world of market value i would expect £250[rifle only] if you actualy want to sell it in the fairly near future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red bob View Post
    lovely example,and you wont be surprised that in my opinion its priceless,but in the real and cold world of market value i would expect £250[rifle only] if you actualy want to sell it in the fairly near future.
    I think so too. V-Mach kits and Maccari kits, while they are brilliant things, don't add to the value of a rifle in my experience, everyone wanting them 'virgin' so they can have their own way with them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    I think so too. V-Mach kits and Maccari kits, while they are brilliant things, don't add to the value of a rifle in my experience, everyone wanting them 'virgin' so they can have their own way with them .
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    bit like putting a better radio in your car and expecting its value to increase you only do these things for yourself while you own it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hsing-ee View Post
    I think so too. V-Mach kits and Maccari kits, while they are brilliant things, don't add to the value of a rifle in my experience, everyone wanting them 'virgin' so they can have their own way with them .
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