Webley Patriot-a review

[Vulcanator]

Sorry Vulcanator i never managed to use the gun much at all but have now got a shoot where the eliminator .20 is going tp be useful , the .25 had to go to open a fac slot for the .20, i still have my .25 rapid @50fpe and intend in 2010 to develop that,
atb brian
ps, happy xmas to you and all that side of the pond.

I hope you got a good price for the gun but I'd be interested in a comparison between the Eliminator and the Patriot from your own experiences.

Merry Christmas.

[Mod]

Looking forward to an eventual back to back test!

I bought a .25 Patriot as part of my initial FAC approvals - I sold it again a few months later.

Out of the box, the rifle was weighty and seemed a solidly constructed, nicely blued piece of kit.

Oh my God, it kicked!

I found that a long shooting session was physically painful on my shoulder - from a bloody air-rifle!

In its standard form it was twangy and the muzzle crack was noticable. Accuracy was not that great and I soon got rid of it. Compared to my .22lr it scored poorly and accordingly it was put away and not used.

It sounds from the comments on this thread, as though tuning is required to turn the standard offering into an acceptable tool.

Rgds

Mod

[Rapidnick]

Looking forward to an eventual back to back test!

I bought a .25 Patriot as part of my initial FAC approvals - I sold it again a few months later.

Out of the box, the rifle was weighty and seemed a solidly constructed, nicely blued piece of kit.

Oh my God, it kicked!

I found that a long shooting session was physically painful on my shoulder - from a bloody air-rifle!

In its standard form it was twangy and the muzzle crack was noticable. Accuracy was not that great and I soon got rid of it. Compared to my .22lr it scored poorly and accordingly it was put away and not used.

It sounds from the comments on this thread, as though tuning is required to turn the standard offering into an acceptable tool.

Rgds

Mod

Please don't look for anything formal like a back to back test! It will be an informal shoot.
Tuning is definitely necessary-I knew that before I bought the rifle from Gareth W-B and from comments made by Baz when the performance of the Patriot had come up on other threads. Mine certainly doesn't kick and the cocking effort is much less than with the Eliminator. Accuracy is perfectly acceptable and for what it is 'best at'-reasonably close range vermin control-the .25 slugs really pack a nasty whack.

[Vulcanator]

It sounds from the comments on this thread, as though tuning is required to turn the standard offering into an acceptable tool.

Rgds

Mod

My Kodiak (aka Patriot) is in standard condition and puts in perfectly good accuracy, check out my target in the link that I submitted in post No.4 of this thread. Like you, when I got mine after about 50 shots my shoulder and arm muscles felt it but with practice I got used to it. You could say the cocking effort puts a Bullworker to shame as an exercise tool! I'll probably tune mine when I wear the mainspring out or consider a gasram conversion. I still think the rifle presents outstanding value for an FAC springer, tuned or untuned.

[Rapidnick]

My Kodiak (aka Patriot) is in standard condition and puts in perfectly good accuracy, check out my target in the link that I submitted in post No.4 of this thread. Like you, when I got mine after about 50 shots my shoulder and arm muscles felt it but with practice I got used to it. You could say the cocking effort puts a Bullworker to shame as an exercise tool! I'll probably tune mine when I wear the mainspring out or consider a gasram conversion. I still think the rifle presents outstanding value for an FAC springer, tuned or untuned.

Not sure that the EXPORT version which you obviously have isn't tuned a bit before they sell it to you. Any company selling into the US market should make a lot more effort than selling to us poor mug Brits.

[Vulcanator]

Not sure that the EXPORT version which you obviously have isn't tuned a bit before they sell it to you. Any company selling into the US market should make a lot more effort than selling to us poor mug Brits.

As a mug myself the only difference I see on my Kodiak are the stampings on the breech block. I bought mine used and judging by the look of the somewhat dry mainspring in the cocking slot it appears to be "plain Jane!" It does twang a bit on the firing cycle so I suspect it is standard.