The rifle Nick has was mine at one time and it has non std spring and piston washer, the Patriot Brian speaks of had a gas ram fitted

The usual achilles heel of the Patriot was too much spring and too little piston washer, they can run themselves in eventually and sweeten up (if you havent expired by then)

But IMO the Eliminator in .22 or .25 will beat the Patriot as far as shootability goes, once of course you have got used to it

When the Pat first came out Webley and Theoben had a back to back gruelling test (which was in AGW I believe) Ben told me about it and brute performance wise there was little in it but the Eliminator pipped the Pat in silly long range testing, I seem to remember Tony at Theoben was hitting a litre plastic bottle at around 150yds consistently, my memory may be not as sharp as it was but thats the gist of what happened