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The HW variants give approx:Originally Posted by bullet boy
.177 carbine: 4 mags
.177 full length: 8 mags
.22 carbine: 5 mags
.22 full length: 10 mags
Most will be close to the above, but it varies a little from one gun to another, depending on whether you get a good one (might give 5-6 mags in .177K) or a bad one (might give 2-3 mags in .177K).
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2-3mags really isn't good enough for a days shooting?
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Agreed - it's not enough shots for more than about half an hour's plinking.
But the gun is quick to top-up with air because of the small reservoir.
It's shot count is plenty for a hunter though.
The most I've ever shot in one hunting session was 26 pellets.
The next most was 22 pellets.
My average is probably about 5 pellets per hunting trip.
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Fluff, lots of good advice and info from you - many thanks - as one of the many HW100 potential purchasers, can you explain a bit more between the differences of the rifle types please ie carbine/non-carbine pros/cons. I've read a few threads regarding the .177/.22 debate so am happy there, even if undecided!
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Pro's and con's....
The full-length and carbine versions are identical and interchangeable, apart from their barrel, air cylinder and stock.
You could take the barrel/cylinder/stock from and swap the three between full-length and carbine, so long as the calibre was the same.
Calibre change is not so easy - it requires much more than you'd think.
I generally prefer the carbine because it's lighter and better handling. It also fits better into a car boot. Some rifles are too long and have to sit on your back seat (in their bag, of course).
Generally speaking, I've found full-length versions to be fractionally more accurate (especially at very long range). I've also found full-length versions to have a slightly flatter trajectory. Additionally, the internals are less stressed.
But....and it's a big (and surprising but....).
I seem to find that long-barrelled .177's, despite their slightly better accuracy and slightly better trajectory, they don't have the "knock down" power on small vermin.
That probably sounds strange, but I believe it's because the shorter carbine versions have more muzzle blast, which causes a slightly unstable pellet.
That instability is what gives a carbine a slightly inferior accuracy/trajectory performance, but it may facilitate tumbling of the pellet upon impact, which causes a lot more damage.
I sold my longer-barreled .177's because they just didn't seem to have the stopping power of my shorter-barreled .177's. In fact, I used to be very "anti- .177" because my HW100 and AAS410 rifles would just drill holes without killing. When I bought my HW100K's, my hunting experience changed dramatically for the better.
For .177 hunting, I'd definitely go carbine.
For HFT, either would do for sufficient accuracy.
For FT, I'd prefer the full-length version (or fit a rifle barrel to a carbine and adjust the interals - to improve shot count and accuracy), for the likelihood of extra accuracy at the extreme ranges.
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Superb rifle very light and accurate, I have a .177 carbine; and it shoots as accurate as any target rifle twice the price or Daystate with electrics etc.
The rifle is very reliable and I think a good looking gun. Excellent quality and finish also. Will shoot a number of makes of pellets without too much trouble. Usually get about 70 shots to a fill.
You won't go wrong!
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