.25 cal sub inch grouping at 100 yards

[Rapidnick]

You keep banging on about .22 rimmies nick but I can tell you mine was more accurate then the the farmers nephew's one and ammo is expensive. Yes it might cost alot less the rifle but the .25 as Ive said and say it over and over again , " for the FAC AIR- rifle hunter the .25 is the DON, 50ftlb with a 31gr round it takes care of everything AND you dont come back smelling of gun-powder as with rimmies AND alot of land is not cleard for rim-fire or as in my case the farmer dont want it as he has alot of cattle .
No one is saying rim-fire is not good but here we are talking air and I for one dont want a 17hmr which blows to bits your quarry and a rimmi that wont do any more then what a highly tunes 50ftlb .25 rapid wont, trust me Ive been there, yes maybe you have 100ftlb with your 40gr bullit but the .25 air rifle running at 50ftlb will do just as much damage as the rimmi and with far better accuracy.
And dont argue nickos , you know its true. blinking tea-bag

Again Costas you are not paying attention and just picking out the bits of my post that suit your argument. I'm agreeing with you that for pure air, the .25 is the best hunting tool available. I make the point every time when I talk to you and post on here that for those unable or unwilling to use .22LR for whatever reason, the .25 air rifle is the best hunting tool there is. Your point on accuracy is simply not right. You quote just one example of a .22LR being compared with your tricked Rapid worth when new about a grand. I can assure you, having shot both, that MY Savage which cost me around £200 will shoot as well as your Rapid AND requires virtually no maintenance. OK .22LR ammo cost around 7p a shot these days. Your Baracudas cost-say-2p each. I say again you can buy an awful lot of .22LR for the difference between the costs of the rifles. That cost difference also conveniently ignores the cost of fuel to get your dive tank topped up. and so on and so on.
Still you like it and that is all that matters.

[verminhunter]

Again Costas you are not paying attention and just picking out the bits of my post that suit your argument. I'm agreeing with you that for pure air, the .25 is the best hunting tool available. I make the point every time when I talk to you and post on here that for those unable or unwilling to use .22LR for whatever reason, the .25 air rifle is the best hunting tool there is. Your point on accuracy is simply not right. You quote just one example of a .22LR being compared with your tricked Rapid worth when new about a grand. I can assure you, having shot both, that MY Savage which cost me around £200 will shoot as well as your Rapid AND requires virtually no maintenance. OK .22LR ammo cost around 7p a shot these days. Your Baracudas cost-say-2p each. I say again you can buy an awful lot of .22LR for the difference between the costs of the rifles. That cost difference also conveniently ignores the cost of fuel to get your dive tank topped up. and so on and so on.
Still you like it and that is all that matters.

Again nick you bring into argument the .22lr, read the post its about the accuracy of a .25FAC NOT rimfire. Dont keep bringing in the costs as you seem to find this a way out to print your debate, its not so leave the .22LR out of the thread, its about AIR , lovely beautiful AIR not bullits and the price of this or that.
Ive had the chance to owe a rimmie and a HMR but refused them as they wont do any more then what my .25 FAC rapid does

You love stressing me out you blinking tea-bag dont you.

[Rapidnick]

Again nick you bring into argument the .22lr, read the post its about the accuracy of a .25FAC NOT rimfire. Dont keep bringing in the costs as you seem to find this a way out to print your debate, its not so leave the .22LR out of the thread, its about AIR , lovely beautiful AIR not bullits and the price of this or that.
Ive had the chance to owe a rimmie and a HMR but refused them as they wont do any more then what my .25 FAC rapid does

You love stressing me out you blinking tea-bag dont you.

I don't want to stress you out Bubbleos-you do a good job of that yourself.
I only bring .22LR into the argument because is exists and, as we have discussed many times, the alternative to .22LR is .25FAC air and NOT, as some shooters think-but not you, a .22 FAC air rifle shooting overpriced lumps of lead called 'air bullets' which cost more than entire .22LR rounds which to me is absolutely crazy.
Good shooting with whatever you choose.

[verminhunter]

I don't want to stress you out Bubbleos-you do a good job of that yourself.
I only bring .22LR into the argument because is exists and, as we have discussed many times, the alternative to .22LR is .25FAC air and NOT, as some shooters think-but not you, a .22 FAC air rifle shooting overpriced lumps of lead called 'air bullets' which cost more than entire .22LR rounds which to me is absolutely crazy.
Good shooting with whatever you choose.

But again you bring into this topic the .22lr why? we are not comparing the two are we? yes it exists and so what, what has a bag of chips got to do with anything? answer nothing. The price we pay for what ever we shoot is worth it if you enjoy what you do.
I wouldn't use bullet heads for a .22 at 50ftlb, wouldn't use a 21gr for a 30ftlb .177 and wouldn't use a 48gr bullet for my .25, these are rubbish and this is worth a debate but bringing in a rimmie just to say you have a choice is wrong , as the thread makes no mention whatsoever about comparing the two. This is what i cant get my head around.

Its like me now saying "well in that case what about a full bore with 3000ftlb"
you see what am trying to say, not having a dig at you old chap but just the fact we are talking about a .25 FAC and the groups they can achieve with the right pellet and how accurate they are, silly billy, now stop stressing me out and say sorry for being a nuisance (honestly these tea-bags)