Hammerli AR20FT

[Tourneysteve]

Collected my one last Saturday, popped down the club last night, and I'm very impressed with it Very comfortable to hold, accurate, and looks great too

[GR01]

Love mine too:d

[KScott_NZ]

Sigh . . . an unknown delivery date for New Zealand, all the way down here

[David Wood]

Just noticed that Blackpool Air Rifles are stocking it now and Includes the walther 8-32x56 scope and accessories all for £599.00, the cheapest ive seen yet with the scope included.

[Rubi-tong]

Are all the ones that everyone has bought the silver? I quite like the "hot red" (then some grey/red laminate..)
Is anyone supplying the other two colours and do they cost more???
RT

[GR01]

I think you will find that the ft model is only in silver as i like the red but the silver will dogarry

[thumbhole]

To the people that have one, how many shots do you get from a fill. As i have not seen one in the flesh, how long is the rear stock and how much can it be adjusted in length, shortest to full extent to accept different users.

[beatman]

shot one yesterday a friends looked fantastic until i picked it up very uncomfortable really awkward loading notchy the groups were ok until i shot my own then realised no better than mine if not slightly worse good entry level price looks like a silencer option may be difficult apart from the looks i think an s200 is as good a tool and more comfortable and cheaper but will get a big following just because its cheap and looks good

Please do not take this as a personal criticism, as that is not my intention, however, I always wonder why people give a negative personal view.... of something they have just picked up to try.
If these are just first impressions what were the impressions of others that own or have tried the same item, try to balance comments with reason and cause

(a) what was your friends view and achievements with the AR20 FT (as it was his rifle)

(b) what pellets were you using (I think the AR20 prefers Mozzies and shotgun Super Fields.. the only two I've tried, any other findings anyone ?)

(c) now again please don't take this the wrong way, but are you a really good shot
(I'm the first to admit, that I'm not) if the AR20 shoots the same (in your words "No Better") as your S200... is that as good or as bad ??
If you are a really good shot or won FT comps, please state so and any negative comments will be taken far more seriously.

(d) why would you want a silencer on an Field Target rifle (would you want to use it for hunting, in the garden or do you find the sound annoying ?)

I agree that the cocking is the worst I have come across and I have bruises to show for it, it tries to be ambidextrous but you cannot easily pull the cocking lever in a straight direction using just one side so it feels strained, you cannot always grab both sides of the cocking lever as the mounted scope restricts your grip. Let's hope this becomes easier with extended use.

I also have read that you can obtain 400 shot's with a 300 bar fill..
It's difficult to fill to 300 bar... you may nearly achieve this once or twice from your air bottle but as most transportable bottles have a max of 300 bar it is soon only half filling the rifles cylinder...
On average I'd say I was getting around 150 good shots from a 3/4 average fill.

I do actually own an AR20 FT and find it the most refreshing rifle to come to the market, for once low price does not equal lower quality, the AR20FT is on equal terms with some top of the range FT rifles... I have owned a few
I think many rifle manufactures are going to receive a big hit in their sales forecasts for the rest of the year and low cost, quality rifles could be the big thing next year.
(That's just my own opinion from a guy who is an average ability non competitive air rifle shooter)

Keep the comments coming... but if they are negative, please back them up with the cause or reason.

ATB

PS I don't know many of the bbs names used by all the AA AAA and champion shooters, If you are one of these, then my apologies, however I do think most of my comments are for the greater good of the bbs readers.

[beatman]

BAR website update...
Already out of stock of Hammerli AR20FT.177 unless you want a .22 or the CO2 type.

I was told today by Swillington Shooting Supplies who also has the CO2 in stock, that the three main distributors are waiting for more stock of AR20FT.177 too...

However, the manufactures/warehouse are now on holiday so it may be late August.

[KScott_NZ]

Just noticed that Blackpool Air Rifles are stocking it now and Includes the walther 8-32x56 scope and accessories all for £599.00, the cheapest ive seen yet with the scope included.

Wow there are times you guys in the UK are very lucky

[steve460]

Got my hands on a hammerli today,thanks to Ron, and put 5 rounds down the range.He had only just zeroed it in at 30 yards as I arrived.
First shot went right where I aimed, next 4 just make the hole a little bigger !!!!
I'm now going to have to wait to try the gun again or till Swillington guns get their next delivery of guns, late August!!!!

Steve

[max29aug]

shot one yesterday a friends looked fantastic until i picked it up very uncomfortable really awkward loading notchy the groups were ok until i shot my own then realised no better than mine if not slightly worse good entry level price looks like a silencer option may be difficult apart from the looks i think an s200 is as good a tool and more comfortable and cheaper but will get a big following just because its cheap and looks good