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    BeerJam is offline Loser of the 2011 'Barn Door Trophy'.
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    .177 / .22 - outdated calibres

    I just do not understand why so many people choose to buy new air guns in these outdated calibres

    Nearly all of the air gun manufacturers offer their latest models in the modern 4.5mm and 5.5mm calibres for which there is a massive range of modern, hi-tech pellets available .

    What's going on?

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    BeerJam is offline Loser of the 2011 'Barn Door Trophy'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Outrageous pedantry perchance
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    This is actually a very good point.

    When only .177 and .22 was available we just bought those pellets and put up with their performance. How anyone ever won anything is just beyond comprehension.

    Now we can buy 4.50, 4.51, 4.52 and 4.53 also 5.50, 5.51, 5.52 and 5.53.
    How did we ever manage when there was such a poor range of guns and ammo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raygun View Post
    How did we ever manage when there was such a poor range of guns and ammo.
    We just had a better excuse for missing!
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    In actual fact, you have got exactly what you got years ago. Exactly the same....only then the 4.50, 4.51, 4.52 and 4.53 pellets all came in the same tin!

    What has happened is people now take air gunning more seriously and the pellets are graded much more carefully. There is still going to be some manufacturing tolerance within the dies, but of course, the accuracy of the die making is much finer too. The same for barrels, but when you see the 100+ year old barrel making machine in the BSA factory that still turns out amazingly accurate barrels it makes you think.

    Metallurgy has also moved on and with computer simulation, designs can be run through the program to test the theory without the expense of toolmaking first, just to try an idea.

    It's all good though, isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Vimes View Post
    We just had a better excuse for missing!
    Or we did'nt miss what we did'nt know Chris

    I was out in quite blowy conditions yesterday and the HW with an MTC AMD Ret was putting the pellets quite comfortably into a 10-12mm hole at 50yds.

    Not big, not clever, I was using a bipod in any event, but had someone told me an airgun could do this (and much better in teh right hands) I would have suggested they see a doctor.

    Apart from the ever spiralling costs these are great times
    What the hell was that then????

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