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    pellets wind barrel alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Rapidnick View Post
    Good shooting without a doubt BUT as those of us who use FAC air quite a bit know, once you push the range over 50 yards everything depends on the wind.. This is especially the case with the JSB 15.9 grain pellets which are nowhere near as stable in the wind as BisMags.
    Anyway what this shows is that the barrel on the OP's AirWolf is a good one and THAT is what is really comforting. Nearly everything is down to the barrel.
    firstly thanks to neddy for the encouragement your a star mate.

    i've simply not been sooting for the last 5 days. as there been a head wind on my land. also gusty and a cross wind. today looks ok so will give it a try.

    i just don't use the b magnums cause they will not group for me at all after 60 yards. but i feel i have been very lucky with the barrel and also not so due to a cross over problem i have had since the gun was new. the barrel does not sit under the block correctly and is set to the side slightly. secondly the alignment of the barrel is not parrel to the block. so a pair of fully ajustable sport match mount are the 6th set of mounts i have had on the gun after the block had recently been replaced but not corrcting the problem. the only way to get perfect alignment has been to move the scope 2-3 mill left on both mounts and slightly diagonal to the block. the scope windage is also well off optical centre. but now after 4 scopes and 6 mounts the guns barrel is aligned with the rectical of the scope. but the scope is far from being optically centred and almost to the end of the turrets travel.

    so in some ways i have been lucky to get a very nice barrel and others no so due to the bad alignment.

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    Gotta say, i am still not 100% sure that Nightstalker isn't gary??!

    You seem too nice to be real, i would have told the people doubting you to bugger off and Troll somewhere else...preferably a knitting forum!!

    don't see why you would bother coming on here to LIE about something like that??
    Very patient.

    Getting the sort of groups, you are talking about are very believable...albeit only on the rare occassions we have a still day!

    My Protarget was close to grouping sub 1" at 100yds, running legal power and only on very still days...never actually quite did it but very close (A group being 5 shots)...Some benchresters are capable of this feat, given the right circumstances IMO.

    I love long range shooting, very satisfying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackscale View Post
    Gotta say, i am still not 100% sure that Nightstalker isn't gary??!

    You seem too nice to be real, i would have told the people doubting you to bugger off and Troll somewhere else...preferably a knitting forum!!

    don't see why you would bother coming on here to LIE about something like that??
    Very patient.

    Getting the sort of groups, you are talking about are very believable...albeit only on the rare occassions we have a still day!

    My Protarget was close to grouping sub 1" at 100yds, running legal power and only on very still days...never actually quite did it but very close (A group being 5 shots)...Some benchresters are capable of this feat, given the right circumstances IMO.

    I love long range shooting, very satisfying!

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    knitting forum that funny.

    good shooting mate, that protarget sounds like a good bit of kit very satifying shooting a 12ft/lb gun at that range. could not do anything with a pellet gun todaytho the wind is bending the trees looking out the window.

    unfortunatly the funs over for me as the gun has to go back to daystate. maybe for a new barrel either that or my money back. i think i have been dealing with a major barrel/blockscope misalignment problem and its very frustrating. with my fully ajuatable sports match mounts and off the scale turret travel the guns rectical to barrel is still not aligned right. windage optically centred on the turrets and mount aligned with the block and the barrel is sending the pellet 13 inches to the left at 35 yards. been told by a gun smith that it should be up to 4 inches either way when everything is centred before zeroing so it looks like a new barrel or money back

    hopefully a new barrel will group as good as the old one but who knows maybe not

    if daystate do not swap it i'm stuck with a badly misaligned gun.

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    Something I just cannot figure in this thread - why 134 yards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnr527 View Post
    Something I just cannot figure in this thread - why 134 yards?
    my living room to the stone wall accross the field is 134 yards!
    from my coal shed its 154!

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    Nice shooting, nice measuring, nice pictures

    As an old time surveyor and i know this is not strictly airgun but, did you use a surveyors chain, metal tape, liinen tape, tellurometer or GPS - what degree of accuracy do the measurements have.

    A couple of other questions

    1. Doesnt your wife object to you shooting from the living room?

    2. You're not shooting across the road are you?

    3. Is it the same wall - only the backgrounds look a little different?

    Regards
    OAP

    Oh and one of your pictures has 130yds on it - is this a typing slip?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gnr527 View Post
    nice shooting, nice measuring, nice pictures

    as an old time surveyor and i know this is not strictly airgun but, did you use a surveyors chain, metal tape, liinen tape, tellurometer or gps - what degree of accuracy do the measurements have.

    a couple of other questions

    1. Doesnt your wife object to you shooting from the living room?

    2. You're not shooting across the road are you?

    3. Is it the same wall - only the backgrounds look a little different?

    Regards
    oap

    oh and one of your pictures has 130yds on it - is this a typing slip?

    Laser range finder (said to be +/- 1yard accurate)
    The wife does not know. I'm doing it in the day when she is at work.
    Who in their right mind would shoot accross a road!!!!!!!! No. its across a field, my field. THERE IS NO ROAD ANYWHERE NEAR THE FIELD.
    Same wall all the way along.
    130yards from the middle of my garden near my living room laying on the lawn on a dry day. On a wet day shooting from my lounge 134y.

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    It really annoys me when established members of this forum simply do not believe that decent groupings can be had with an air rifle at over 100 yards.
    Its really annoying when these members then continue to poke fun and take the p**s out of these members who put in good groups at long ranges.
    If conditions are perfect and the pellets and barrel are in good order then why cant these sort of groups be achieved.
    Ive had sub 1/2 in groups with a TX200 HC in .177 at a measured 75 yards in still conditions (Ive had many disbelievers) so I see absolutely no reason why sub inch groups cant be achieved with a 12 ft/lb .177 PCP in windless conditions at 100 yards, I see absolutely no reason why a 32 ft/lb PCP cant achieve achieve 3/4 inch at 134 yards.
    There was a thread the other day about 40 yard groupings and apparently its impossible to get pellet on pellet at 40 yards with a 12 ft/lb rifle
    Well I did it last week, got 7 pellets through the same hole at 45 yards ( 3 fliers a few mm's away, wind)with my Huntsman, pellets straight form the tin, prone. Zeroed at 30 yards, aim points were exactly the same as Chairguns.
    If the mighty Chairgun program says its possible then it must be possible.
    I simply dont see why so many people disbelieve, what reason would people have to come on this forum and blatantly lie???


    I just wish my range wasent so windy and was a bit longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnr527 View Post
    Nice shooting, nice measuring, nice pictures

    As an old time surveyor and i know this is not strictly airgun but, did you use a surveyors chain, metal tape, liinen tape, tellurometer or GPS - what degree of accuracy do the measurements have.

    A couple of other questions

    1. Doesnt your wife object to you shooting from the living room?

    2. You're not shooting across the road are you?
    3. Is it the same wall - only the backgrounds look a little different?

    Regards
    OAP

    Oh and one of your pictures has 130yds on it - is this a typing slip?
    ??...What a ridiculous question.....The road has gone as they have built a primary school there!

    Why do people come out with this utter tosh??....Or is this now gary hot lips!??
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