'Best' CO2 multishot?

[TRS1]

Thanks for all your thoughts so far chaps....

So far I'm swaying to the CP88 competition, but keep your suggestions coming....

I'm definately not after an airsoft, just so people know. I have a couple from about 5 years ago that I need to shift, but it seems a bit of a pain doing it legally!

[Bessa]

Good choice.
I dont have a vested interest in the CP88 or Umarex....its just the general view of the 30 or so members of the club.
Some of the more compact models may look better but they simply dont generate enough power and accuracy in comparsion with the CP88. (Barrels too short)
However...to fans of other similar guns...this type of gun really doesnt need power and accuracy to have repeating fun plinking sessions.
Im just working from the comparison view.
For the record the CP88 comp managed 423 fps with Hobby pellets
Berretta 385 fps
CP99 330fps
PPK 283 fps
S&W 8 inch barrel 421fps
Gamo P23 380 fps with balls
Anics approached 480 fps with balls (4.5mm balls only) but were very agricultural with massive triiger weights......maybe 10lb pulls!
Cant offer more advice....theyre the only models tested over the years outside of the Target Gas stuff.

[ikarma70]

I'd have to say the S&W 586 for the following reasons.

1. Choice of barrel length, 6'' being the best.
2. 10 shots instead of 8 from the other Umarex co2 pistols.
3. Best sights as standard of any of the Umarex range(elevation and windage plus 3 foresight blade widths) and they also can't move as they are securely screwed in place.
4. Very good trigger.
5. Barrel screws into the frame and the shroud is securely located onto the barrel muzzle thread hence the reason why the foresight can't go anywhere.
6. Easier to remove a jammed pellet due to the easy barrel removal.

Lastly when you buy a Smith, you really are buying a revolver and not an 8 shot revolver disguised as a semi auto.

[treebeard]

I'd have to say the S&W 586 for the following reasons.

1. Choice of barrel length, 6'' being the best.
2. 10 shots instead of 8 from the other Umarex co2 pistols.
3. Best sights as standard of any of the Umarex range(elevation and windage plus 3 foresight blade widths) and they also can't move as they are securely screwed in place.
4. Very good trigger.
5. Barrel screws into the frame and the shroud is securely located onto the barrel muzzle thread hence the reason why the foresight can't go anywhere.
6. Easier to remove a jammed pellet due to the easy barrel removal.

Lastly when you buy a Smith, you really are buying a revolver and not an 8 shot revolver disguised as a semi auto.

i have to second the above.
rob

[Bessa]

The Smith is def well made. Returns 10 shots and matches the power and accuracy of the CP88. The Trigger also matches the CP88 which is about the about the best there is on these type guns.
Incidently the stylish curve of the CP88 trigger was much prefered to the blocky Colt.
However, the only way the Smith can match the CP88 is with that 8 inch barrel....where it becomes one big handful in balance terms.
The 6 inch Smith on the otherhand....although 6 inch like the CP88 doesnt quite make the same power....about 390fps. I think its because there is a bigger gap between the mag and the breech face...thus you need the full 8 inches to make the same M.V.

Even so....can see why the Smith has its fans....its a strong contender and i wouldnt argue much of case for the CP88 being better.

[ikarma70]

Mr. Bessa, I have noticed a recurring theme regarding your replies to this thread and you seem to be focused on power and muzzle velocities, none of which means a thing if you can't hit your desired target.

Muzzle velocities vary from shot to shot due to co2 temperature,pellet tolerances, pellet weight, head sizes, the list goes on but the Smith has another big plus point.....price!

A new CP88 6'' black or nickel costs around £200 and then if you want fully adjustable sights like the Smith(fitted as standard no extra cost) you have to pay an extra £50 ish so that's £250 whereas the Smith is roughly £180.

Forgot this one....you can also fit genuine Millet sights from the full bore Smith 586 to the co2 Smith with a minor modification which makes the Smith more accurate.

[tbonesnake]

"Lastly when you buy a Smith, you really are buying a revolver and not an 8 shot revolver disguised as a semi auto. "

i have to totaly agree with that statement , even the px4 storm at the end of the day as awsome as its blowback action is it is still technically a revolver , wouldent it be awsome if they ever get round to making a true semi auto pellet pistol , i mean it wouldent be a major feat of engineering to pull of all they need to desighn is a disposable inexspensive plastic cartridge that the pellets are pushed into then loaded into a spring loaded magazine , hell i bet if they really put there minds to it at umarex they could make the plastic cartridge eject once the pellet has been fired just like the rap4 paintball system.

[Paul55]

I'd have to say the S&W 586 for the following reasons.

1. Choice of barrel length, 6'' being the best.
2. 10 shots instead of 8 from the other Umarex co2 pistols.
3. Best sights as standard of any of the Umarex range(elevation and windage plus 3 foresight blade widths) and they also can't move as they are securely screwed in place.
4. Very good trigger.
5. Barrel screws into the frame and the shroud is securely located onto the barrel muzzle thread hence the reason why the foresight can't go anywhere.
6. Easier to remove a jammed pellet due to the easy barrel removal.

Lastly when you buy a Smith, you really are buying a revolver and not an 8 shot revolver disguised as a semi auto.

Very well put +1