RIKA, SCATT, Anyone used these?

[RobF]

The ability to hold steady is very apparent in some cases.

Thanks

Mark

That's cos they don't 'hold'.... (position is everything )

[Cones]

That's cos they don't 'hold'.... (position is everything )

Yes, very true.

Mark

[McTrucky]

Thanks for the links, I'll have a browse in a mo'.

But another thought occurs - if the systems rely on an accoustic pick up for dry fire, is the solenoid click on an electronic trigger enough to register, or would I need to cock and drop the hammer (which I don't think I can do without discharging air). Specifically I'm talking about a Morini 162IE

Cheers
McT

[Cones]

Thanks for the links, I'll have a browse in a mo'.

But another thought occurs - if the systems rely on an accoustic pick up for dry fire, is the solenoid click on an electronic trigger enough to register, or would I need to cock and drop the hammer (which I don't think I can do without discharging air). Specifically I'm talking about a Morini 162IE

Cheers
McT

It should work fine. You can adjust the sensitivity. It is more of a vibration sensor than a microphone. Else other shooters nearby would set it off.

HTH

Mark

[McTrucky]

OK... I've now used both Scatt and Rika systems, and as above, the Rika was clunkier, the scatt much more 'polished'.

Yes I can see they they are a huge tool for analysing performance; but that over analysis is perhaps a bad thing, and they need to be used as part of a larger training program.

If I owned one, I reckon I'd use it a lot to begin with, and once the novelty wore off - probably around once every three weeks or so to monitor performance.


So if anyone does have a scatt gathering dust, drop me a PM....

Cheers
McT

[dave_samk11]

One small thing I would strongly recommend getting it through Paul Cutts at Diverse Trading, you can save a few quid here and there by getting one elsewhere but Paul really know his onions with Scatt but naturally if you didn't get it from him don't ask for his help.

Regards

David

[mizzat]

I've read this thread with great interest. I've only started air pistol shooting few weeks ago so not ready for such systems yet. I am however interested enough and have bought a Steyr LP10E last week.

Could I have a rough guide as to how much would a set up (either of the three systems) would cost and would supply it? I am ploughing through the training on my own (no coaching available) and with all I can read on the internet. Also, would you think such systems could be adapted for other shooting sports (I've done archery for 20 years and there are no comprarable systems available, would love to use this on my bow).

[Neil-Carter]

Specifically I'm talking about a Morini 162IE

Cheers
McT[/QUOTE]

I've used our club scatt with my morini 162EI and it works just fine

[Cones]

I've read this thread with great interest. I've only started air pistol shooting few weeks ago so not ready for such systems yet. I am however interested enough and have bought a Steyr LP10E last week.

Could I have a rough guide as to how much would a set up (either of the three systems) would cost and would supply it? I am ploughing through the training on my own (no coaching available) and with all I can read on the internet. Also, would you think such systems could be adapted for other shooting sports (I've done archery for 20 years and there are no comprarable systems available, would love to use this on my bow).

About £825 for the Scatt system. This will work with both rifle and pistol at 10m. You need a Laptop to run the system on as well, plus a tripod or support for the target.

The system will only work indoors as well, away from sources of heat such as windows and radiators.

It would be well worth a training course to get the best out of the system. Otherwise it is just lots of wavy lines and numbers.

HTH

Mark

[McTrucky]

I'm sure I've read somewhere that they can be used for archery - but I've no idea how.

For further reading, the web links are : http://www.rika1.com/ and http://www.scatt.com/

Cheers
McT

[The Doctor]

I've read this thread with great interest. I've only started air pistol shooting few weeks ago so not ready for such systems yet. I am however interested enough and have bought a Steyr LP10E last week.

Could I have a rough guide as to how much would a set up (either of the three systems) would cost and would supply it? I am ploughing through the training on my own (no coaching available) and with all I can read on the internet. Also, would you think such systems could be adapted for other shooting sports (I've done archery for 20 years and there are no comprarable systems available, would love to use this on my bow).

If you are in Wigan then you can't be too far away from Blackburn - get in touch with Neil Carter (look down this page and you should see a thread started by him); I know they have one or two (:-) ) good shooters that go to the club, and I am sure Neil would help you out finding some informal coaching

Lee

[demonloop]

The Noptels are very, very good IMO, the ability to live fire is very useful.

I'm intending to buy the 50m prisms to use a Noptel, live fire, at 50m on Meyton targets. Awful lot of tehnology, but will be a fantastic training tool in near-match conditions.

No matter what sport you compete in you want your training to be as near your competition conditions as possible. Thats why I think Noptel has an edge over the rest.

Price is somewhat prohibitive though.

If a price north of £2k is out of reach, the SCATT is certainly the next best tool.

[john_almighty]

Hi scatt users, i am returning to pistol shooting again after a wrist injury kept me out for long time. Unfortunately, i will need a lot of work to get back to my earlier level. I am looking to buy a scatt for regular indoor practise.

My question is quite precise, i have about max 6meter of long uninterupted standing area for practise. Can the scatt be used in this small place considering i use a smaller target or is it too close. This is very important for me to know before i buy as i intend to use it 80 percent or total practise.

This is for practising air pistol.

Thanks for your help,
John

[Neil-Carter]

Thanks for the links, I'll have a browse in a mo'.

But another thought occurs - if the systems rely on an accoustic pick up for dry fire, is the solenoid click on an electronic trigger enough to register, or would I need to cock and drop the hammer (which I don't think I can do without discharging air). Specifically I'm talking about a Morini 162IE

Cheers
McT

I've used the scatt system with a morini 162ei without any problems.

[Neil-Carter]

Hi scatt users, i am returning to pistol shooting again after a wrist injury kept me out for long time. Unfortunately, i will need a lot of work to get back to my earlier level. I am looking to buy a scatt for regular indoor practise.

My question is quite precise, i have about max 6meter of long uninterupted standing area for practise. Can the scatt be used in this small place considering i use a smaller target or is it too close. This is very important for me to know before i buy as i intend to use it 80 percent or total practise.

This is for practising air pistol.

Thanks for your help,
John

Some of the older scatt systems only work at 10m so it would be worth checking before you buy. The rika system works at shorter distances and you can print out targets scaled down to your chosen distance.