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    Range observations

    Used the scope this evening for the first time at the indoor range. My initial comments that the field of view didnt appear much increased were incorrect, as the sight picture was much larger than on "normal" field of view scopes.

    The lens quality is genuinely first class. An amazingly good image that would compare with "big brand" scopes costing many times more than this Chinese offering.

    I managed to achieve a zero in all of five minutes, and proceeded to fire 150ish shots down range with the parallax set at 25 yards and on 8 mag. A couple of fellow club members that are far better shots than I tried the scope out for themselves and were truly stunned at the image quality. One of these shooters is somebody who, until this evening, would rather chew his own arm off than buy a Chinese scope. However, he is ordering one this evening as he was that impressed.

    The other shooter who is one of our clubs best shots currently enjoying his FT with Anshutz/Big Nikko, then started experimenting with parallax adjustments and proceeded to put 5 shots through the same hole at 30 yards. I am aware that many of us can do this, but what was most impressive that with the scope settings at 8.5 mag and a 40 feet parallax, was that the Rapid was hitting everything it was pointing at with no aim off adjustments for ranges from 10-40 yards. At 20-25 yards it was still just a pellet or so high of POI.

    The Rapid MFR is running @ 810fps with Crosman Premier 7.9 and the scope sits nice and low at 1.5 inches above the centre of the barrel. I am obviously delighted that I now have a combo that shoots so flat, with the critical up to 25 yard reducer targets being in crystal clear view for HFTers like myself. The 40 yard targets with these settings are not as pin sharp, but then I use this to aid range finding anyway. Bare in mind this was indoors under artificial lighting, and I am confident that the image would be even brighter when in the great outdoors. I adjusted the mag from 6,8 & 12 and didnt notice much, if any change to POI , but as i will be leaving the parallax adjustment well alone after finding the optimum setting, for me this wont matter once the scope has finally been "set" and zeroed at its preffered range of 30 yards, not my usual 35.

    If this combination proves as effective as I suspect it might at Oldhams HFT shoot this Sunday, I can see my Steyr/Bushnell 6500 becoming redundant and in search of a new home very soon! I have always enjoyed shooting Rapids, and this combination of gun, scope and pellet is both great to shoot and extremely accurate. It remains to be seen if my performance will improve further, but ones thing is for sure, with this scope and its strange parallax setting allowing such a relatively constant POI, I honestly believe that I will enjoy shooting both competition and in the field with even more confidence, and I really cant give higher praise than that.

    Will update after Sundays competition when any scope issues will become apparent following a challenging round of HFT.

    Andy
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    I've got the non-paralax adjustable one on order, hope the lock ring on the objective is'nt loctited in, think it will need bringing down a few yards or so. After reading this review I can't wait.
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    I considered the fixed version as well Rubi with the half mill reticle, and if the objective loosens easily and you can get it down to 15 yards or so I am sure you will be as chuffed as I am.

    I was down at the indoor again this evening for a play as I was still surprised at last nights findings. You do have to aim off very slightly for close or longer range targets, but the combo shoots flatter than anything I have shot before, with the ability to see all of the crucial 8-25 yard targets very clearly while still getting a shootable picture at 40 plus.

    Hope you enjoy yours!

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    Sorry have i missed something here? How can the quality of the scope flatten the trajectory of the pellet??
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    obviously, it cant. i think he's on about how low the scope sits in the mounts he has on the gun. the nearer to the barrel, the flatter the trajectory seems. i think. lol. been thinking about trying one too. i have 2 tac 30's and think they're great scopes. i think its a shame they dont do the panorama half mil dots with ao. although the map 6 aint bad, the half mil dot ret is loads better. they should do both. i'd defo get one then. as it stands, its a toss up between the panorama 4-12x40ao or 4-12x40 half mil dot or the mamba lite. as ive already said, i'd have a half mil dot ao straight away without even thinking about it. great ret.

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    Deben told me that they will be getting another load of Panorama's in stock in about 20 days time and they will go straight out to dealers. I reckon its a cracking little scope to be honest.

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    For ratting Terrier I might be inclined to go for the 3-9x40. Mine focusses down to 10 yards so no problem for rodents!
    Regarding the pellet trajectory, due to how low the scope sits in comparison to the barrel, and the ability of the scope to retain a clear sight picture from 10 to nearly 40 yards (slightly further outside,)the ability to reduce the amount of holdover/under makes the gun appear to shoot flatter, certainly more than my Steyr/Bushnell HFT rig with Mosquitos. This obviously will allow me to feel more confident in hitting reducer targets, as the sight picture is much more focussed and the low sitting scope will make the most of the improved POI variance. This usually means having to increase holdover at 40 plus, but for some reason the combo appears to shoot flat out there as well.
    I am not saying that the characteristics of this scope defy the laws of gravity working on a .177 air pellet, all I am trying to say is that with a low mount and barrel arrangement in combination with this particular scope, the combination appears ideal for both HFT and hunting at legal limit airgun ranges. All will be revealed on Sunday when I will discover if the scope has had a noticeable impact, as I am confident it will with 15mm targets at up to 25 yards. I managed to achieve joint top score at Oldham last time with a 45ex50 using the Steyr and look forward to bettering that using my preffered Rapid/cheap scope combination.

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