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    Hawke "Panorama- EV" 4-12x40

    Ordered this scope on Saturday night directly from Deben as I dont believe they are in the shops yet. It arrived this morning so well done Deben on that front.

    Having read the specifications regarding this new range from Hawke, it certainly looks like the range has been designed with Airgunners in mind. I have been looking for a reasonably light 25mm scope to sit atop my Rapid MFR primarily for field use, and this one sounded like it might fit the bill.

    Anyway, on unpacking the scope, I was pleased to find a couple of rubber flip up lens protectors provided and decided to weigh the beast immediately. She came in at 1lb 3oz so will not overload the very pointable Rapid in any way. Slotting the optic into the standard 25mm Theoben mounts, I was pleased to note that despite the inclusion of an adjustable objective, there was a good clearance above the barrel shroud, even with the lens cover fitted.

    Next job was to set the fast focus ring for my apparently failing eyesight in the fading afternoon light. Once that was sorted I was intrigued to see if the "Extended View" facility actually made any noticeable difference to the sight picture. Hawke claim an additional 20%, but to me, I couldn't honestly notice any apparent difference in field of view. What I did notice however was the amazingly sharp image and optical clarity of the lenses, with a genuinely bright pin sharp image from edge to edge and good colour saturation. Next it was the turn of the blue/red half mill dot illuminated reticle to be given the once over. I have always considered the Hawke half-mil reticle to be an excellent choice for both HFTers and hunters like myself, and I was not disappointed with the genuinely useful ability of the scopes "MAP 6A" reticle to change from the more day focussed blue( looks particularly good) to the red I would use for evening shooting/lamping sessions.

    The low profile turret "finger tip"adjusters live safely under the cover of the usual screw caps, and it will be my intention to check upon any zero shift when adjusting the mag at my clubs indoor range tomorrow evening.

    It will be my intention to add to this review when I have had a chance to give the scope a thorough thrashing in the field, at HFT and of course the indoor range.

    My initial impressions are that the scope represents somewhat of a bargain for anybody looking for a scope suitable of doing most things, apart from range finding as our colleagues in FT do with their "torpedo-tube esqe" optics. To say I am impressed at this stage would be an understatement.

    On my usual HFT rig lives a Bushnell 6500 and very nice it is too. Considering that it cost nearly three times what this Chinese produced Hawke has on offer reminds me of just how far the Chinese have come in the production of relatively low priced high quality optics. OK, its not a Zeiss or a S&B, but for the money it represents outstanding value for money in my opinion and is well worth checking out for yourselves.

    I will of course add to this review as and when I discover the optics good and possibly bad points, although at this early stage I think I might be struggling to find any bad ones!

    Highly recommended.

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    Nice review andy, i'll be looking forward to seeing if there's any zero shift when you get it down the range. I'm in the market for a new scope and have this model in mind as well as an MTC Mamba Lite and possibly the new Hawke Varmint SF.

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    dof please :)

    I think most HFT'ers would be interested in dof for this scope. Cant wait for next installment.

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    Range observations

    Used the scope this evening for the first time at the indoor range. My initial comments that the field of view didnt appear much increased were incorrect, as the sight picture was much larger than on "normal" field of view scopes.

    The lens quality is genuinely first class. An amazingly good image that would compare with "big brand" scopes costing many times more than this Chinese offering.

    I managed to achieve a zero in all of five minutes, and proceeded to fire 150ish shots down range with the parallax set at 25 yards and on 8 mag. A couple of fellow club members that are far better shots than I tried the scope out for themselves and were truly stunned at the image quality. One of these shooters is somebody who, until this evening, would rather chew his own arm off than buy a Chinese scope. However, he is ordering one this evening as he was that impressed.

    The other shooter who is one of our clubs best shots currently enjoying his FT with Anshutz/Big Nikko, then started experimenting with parallax adjustments and proceeded to put 5 shots through the same hole at 30 yards. I am aware that many of us can do this, but what was most impressive that with the scope settings at 8.5 mag and a 40 feet parallax, was that the Rapid was hitting everything it was pointing at with no aim off adjustments for ranges from 10-40 yards. At 20-25 yards it was still just a pellet or so high of POI.

    The Rapid MFR is running @ 810fps with Crosman Premier 7.9 and the scope sits nice and low at 1.5 inches above the centre of the barrel. I am obviously delighted that I now have a combo that shoots so flat, with the critical up to 25 yard reducer targets being in crystal clear view for HFTers like myself. The 40 yard targets with these settings are not as pin sharp, but then I use this to aid range finding anyway. Bare in mind this was indoors under artificial lighting, and I am confident that the image would be even brighter when in the great outdoors. I adjusted the mag from 6,8 & 12 and didnt notice much, if any change to POI , but as i will be leaving the parallax adjustment well alone after finding the optimum setting, for me this wont matter once the scope has finally been "set" and zeroed at its preffered range of 30 yards, not my usual 35.

    If this combination proves as effective as I suspect it might at Oldhams HFT shoot this Sunday, I can see my Steyr/Bushnell 6500 becoming redundant and in search of a new home very soon! I have always enjoyed shooting Rapids, and this combination of gun, scope and pellet is both great to shoot and extremely accurate. It remains to be seen if my performance will improve further, but ones thing is for sure, with this scope and its strange parallax setting allowing such a relatively constant POI, I honestly believe that I will enjoy shooting both competition and in the field with even more confidence, and I really cant give higher praise than that.

    Will update after Sundays competition when any scope issues will become apparent following a challenging round of HFT.

    Andy
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    I've got the non-paralax adjustable one on order, hope the lock ring on the objective is'nt loctited in, think it will need bringing down a few yards or so. After reading this review I can't wait.
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    I considered the fixed version as well Rubi with the half mill reticle, and if the objective loosens easily and you can get it down to 15 yards or so I am sure you will be as chuffed as I am.

    I was down at the indoor again this evening for a play as I was still surprised at last nights findings. You do have to aim off very slightly for close or longer range targets, but the combo shoots flatter than anything I have shot before, with the ability to see all of the crucial 8-25 yard targets very clearly while still getting a shootable picture at 40 plus.

    Hope you enjoy yours!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poison dwarf View Post
    I think most HFT'ers would be interested in dof for this scope. Cant wait for next installment.
    I've just recieved the night eye sf digi ir from hawke. it's on my .243 after a conversation on the phone with a tech guy at deben. i down loaded the brc ballistic calculator and set it to the .243 winchester after 6 rounds to zero at 100 yards in a 15 to 20mph wind from the left i shot agroup of 1 1/2 . then using the mildots and windage dots on the map6 ret i shot a mellon at 300 yds spot on very good scope very clear and the ir was brilliant 50mm objective and clear glass gave light when i din't expect to see anything . this praise doesn't come from someone who doesn't know good quality scopes as on my .22-250 i use a swarovsky both are good lowlight hunting fox deer scopes but the price for the nite eye is a lot less.

    all the monty57.

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    I remain that impressed I am flogging my Bushnell 6500 to buy another couple. A genuine bargain buy that works pretty damned well in my opinion.

    Andy
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    Quote Originally Posted by monty57 View Post
    I've just recieved the night eye sf digi ir from hawke. it's on my .243 after a conversation on the phone with a tech guy at deben. i down loaded the brc ballistic calculator and set it to the .243 winchester after 6 rounds to zero at 100 yards in a 15 to 20mph wind from the left i shot agroup of 1 1/2 . then using the mildots and windage dots on the map6 ret i shot a mellon at 300 yds spot on very good scope very clear and the ir was brilliant 50mm objective and clear glass gave light when i din't expect to see anything . this praise doesn't come from someone who doesn't know good quality scopes as on my .22-250 i use a swarovsky both are good lowlight hunting fox deer scopes but the price for the nite eye is a lot less.

    all the monty57.
    I have the night eye digi on my hw100, fantastic scope, as good as the tac 30 i had and much better than the mtc mamba it replaced, will be getting another for sure but would like to try the panorama.

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    I have swapped most of my scopes (MTC'S) FOR THE 4-12X40'S WITH THE HALF MILDOT RET.

    Truly a great range of scopes for the money.
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    Mate had one of these

    My mate had one of these. he loved it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Amac View Post
    Ordered this scope on Saturday night directly from Deben as I dont believe they are in the shops yet. It arrived this morning so well done Deben on that front.

    Having read the specifications regarding this new range from Hawke, it certainly looks like the range has been designed with Airgunners in mind. I have been looking for a reasonably light 25mm scope to sit atop my Rapid MFR primarily for field use, and this one sounded like it might fit the bill.

    Anyway, on unpacking the scope, I was pleased to find a couple of rubber flip up lens protectors provided and decided to weigh the beast immediately. She came in at 1lb 3oz so will not overload the very pointable Rapid in any way. Slotting the optic into the standard 25mm Theoben mounts, I was pleased to note that despite the inclusion of an adjustable objective, there was a good clearance above the barrel shroud, even with the lens cover fitted.

    Next job was to set the fast focus ring for my apparently failing eyesight in the fading afternoon light. Once that was sorted I was intrigued to see if the "Extended View" facility actually made any noticeable difference to the sight picture. Hawke claim an additional 20%, but to me, I couldn't honestly notice any apparent difference in field of view. What I did notice however was the amazingly sharp image and optical clarity of the lenses, with a genuinely bright pin sharp image from edge to edge and good colour saturation. Next it was the turn of the blue/red half mill dot illuminated reticle to be given the once over. I have always considered the Hawke half-mil reticle to be an excellent choice for both HFTers and hunters like myself, and I was not disappointed with the genuinely useful ability of the scopes "MAP 6A" reticle to change from the more day focussed blue( looks particularly good) to the red I would use for evening shooting/lamping sessions.

    The low profile turret "finger tip"adjusters live safely under the cover of the usual screw caps, and it will be my intention to check upon any zero shift when adjusting the mag at my clubs indoor range tomorrow evening.

    It will be my intention to add to this review when I have had a chance to give the scope a thorough thrashing in the field, at HFT and of course the indoor range.

    My initial impressions are that the scope represents somewhat of a bargain for anybody looking for a scope suitable of doing most things, apart from range finding as our colleagues in FT do with their "torpedo-tube esqe" optics. To say I am impressed at this stage would be an understatement.

    On my usual HFT rig lives a Bushnell 6500 and very nice it is too. Considering that it cost nearly three times what this Chinese produced Hawke has on offer reminds me of just how far the Chinese have come in the production of relatively low priced high quality optics. OK, its not a Zeiss or a S&B, but for the money it represents outstanding value for money in my opinion and is well worth checking out for yourselves.

    I will of course add to this review as and when I discover the optics good and possibly bad points, although at this early stage I think I might be struggling to find any bad ones!

    Highly recommended.

    Andy

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    I brought one of these yesterday, nice scope , had a little play with it and all seems well.
    Mounted it on my Falcon , and it was fairly easy to set up.
    My only comment with it, well not the scope more the instructions that come with it, they dont represent whats in the box and are more of a general guide.
    I did go to the Hawke web site but they dont appear to have any instructions that just relate to this scope?
    I am going to mail Hawke and ask the question.
    simple things like, where's the battery? i know where it is but if you were new to scopes you might not know!

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    Thumbs up

    Just got this reply from Debden.

    I have just spoken to the gentleman that deals with the manufacturing and design of the riflescope range. He has assured me that the instructions are in the process of being re-worked with more information to help the end user. He has not been able to give me a date of when these will be available, but once they are, they will be in a PDF format to download.

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    Thanks Bonz.
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