I got my Hawke Panorama today but unfortunately I going to return it as I just cannot see the mil dots or the half mildots and there was very little diference with the blue iluminating recticule on and the red was simply a jumble of lines.
So while there may be a fault with the iluminating recticle with my scope I still cannot see bug*er all with it switched off, shame that.
Oophs! no I didnt but the ret is very fine I suspect that I would have struggled anyway.
I've never had to adjust previous scopes that much and have seen very little difference when I did so.
I've since returned the scopes and got a replacement on its way a Hawke Endurance not half mil dot but half the price.
I've a an endurance that I bought last February costing £75 now they cost £49.01 plus postage.
Martin, I wear glasses for reading, but not for shooting, and I have to adjust the eye piece a long way to bring the ret. into focus for me (old eyes!) but having done so it is sharp on all the hawke scopes I've viewed.
AirArms S400k L/H (.177)BTAS, tuned, AirArms S410k L/H (.177) walnut, BTAS tuned, AA MPR .177 L/H walnut and...L/H EV2
My son always takes the p--s regarding how far out I now have to wind out the ocular adjustment to allow for my ageing eyesight. Once I have done all is clear as they say. If James looks through any scope I have adjusted to suit me he cant see a damned thing according to him. God he's cruel..........
Hi Was thinking of getting this scope as part of a package on a BSA R10. It's my first scope in about 25 years is it easy to get on with to zero etc. And do you think it's a good all round scope for general plinking, hunting.
I would say that it was most definitely up there with all of the usual suspects from the likes of MTC and others. Its ideal all-round really and at a good price. Andy
I brought one of these yesterday, nice scope , had a little play with it and all seems well.
Mounted it on my Falcon , and it was fairly easy to set up.
My only comment with it, well not the scope more the instructions that come with it, they dont represent whats in the box and are more of a general guide.
I did go to the Hawke web site but they dont appear to have any instructions that just relate to this scope?
I am going to mail Hawke and ask the question.
simple things like, where's the battery? i know where it is but if you were new to scopes you might not know!
Just got this reply from Debden.
I have just spoken to the gentleman that deals with the manufacturing and design of the riflescope range. He has assured me that the instructions are in the process of being re-worked with more information to help the end user. He has not been able to give me a date of when these will be available, but once they are, they will be in a PDF format to download.
As a new member and new to the sport I found your review concise and informative.
As a left hander I have found it difficult to buy a quality rifle, however with the help of Ian from MAD I have secured a S400 .177 seconded hand. I am now looking to buy the Panorama, should I go for the EV or the AO EV and in what configuration?Any ideas on a second hand one? I will want it mainly for hunting.
Thanks in anticipation of your help.
Hi Kevin. Thanks for your kind words. As a fellow lefty, I know that finding a decent left handed gun isnt easy so well done on that front!
Scope wise, I would personally recommend the 4-14x40 EV with the adjustable objective lens. If you can get clearance above the magazine on the 410, go for medium mounts as you really want the scope mounted as low as possible. Best way is to take the gun into a gunshop stocking the Panorama scopes and to try with medium mounts.
When using the scope, try to maintain a consistent head position on the stock as this will reduce the liklehood of parallax error. If needs be, use a "pigs ear" scope extension. You will then have yourself a setup that is more than capable in the field. I would also recommend 8-9 mag and setting the objective to 30 yards.
The none AO Panorama would require you adjusting the objective lens yourself, voiding your warranty.
Enjoy your shooting!
I have the 4-12x50 AO Map 6a version, used for hunting.
I picked mine up from BAR and compared with non AO version before buying.
Non AO fine on low magnification regards depth of field, on high magnification near objects blurred a little. I don't do HFT; fixed might be good for that?
The scope has a bright image, good enough to do a barn clearance in sodium light.
Has a wider field of view than average by a good bit as claimed.
The fine cross hair doesn't obscure your target & Blue IR useful.
The eye relief range is excellent on low magnification; as magnification increased, you have less leeway where your eye has to be.
I have tested whether Point Of Impact changed with magnification, and didn't appear to (25 yards zero).
The scopes are relatively compact/short and keep weight back on rifle.
For the distances you shoot with a 12ftlb air rifle I'd say perfect; a no brainer at the price - excellent Value For Money, especially in the current climate.
I bought one of these scopes (4-12x40AO) 2nd hand on here recently.
It has replaced a Hawke 3-9x50AO Pro-Stalk on my FAC'd HW80K and I have to say I've been impressed by the image quality; especially considering the Jap optics of the Pro-Stalk weren't half bad either. It is very clear and does seem to have a very good FOV considering the obj size. The reticle is also very useful, especially when used with the Hawke ballistic software and the blue/red IR is very good indeed.
I have to say that this scope is not what I envisaged for my custom HW80K, which I consider to be a bit special. I would like to see a 3-9x40 Nikon or a Bushnell Elite on there but, to be honest, I can't justify replacing this little Hawke Panorama EV with something more expensive. Not right now anyway.
An absolutely superb scope for the money and thanks to the OP for starting this thread.
Last edited by Hellequin; 22-02-2011 at 01:50 AM.
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