is there a pistol that rivals the hw45 in power,acuracy and build qaulity

[Taylor]

The recoil on the HW45 is the opposite of what you find on a cartridge pistol because the rearward travel of the piston pushes the muzzle down rather than up. For instance, if you zero at half power and then shoot at full power the groupings drop on the target face because of the extra recoil. An air pistol with a forward moving piston better simulates the recoil of a cartridge pistol, like a locked FWB65 or indeed a Diana LP8.

Not important if you enjoy shooting the HW45, I do, that’s what matters.

Back to the OP: I think the fella wants a hand canon that can party with his bruvs HW45. The Alecto, I’m not sure. Besides blatting is much more fun with a bit of kick.

[TARGET-MISSER]

thanks for the replies but i went to the airgun shop today and decided id just go with something different (hw45 is a tad top heavy for my liking) so ended up getting a s/h sheriden pro hunter with a hawk adjustable brightness red dot sight and a silencer (thought pointless but i like the look however it actually makes a noticable difference in sound) got it for 180 which is probably a bit pricey but hey ho heres a picture

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...PICT1165-1.jpg

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1166.jpg

[Ian]

Excellent choice

I have an EB22 & EB17

Great little pistols

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...n/DSC06040.jpg

[ashf9999]

thanks for the replies but i went to the airgun shop today and decided id just go with something different (hw45 is a tad top heavy for my liking) so ended up getting a s/h sheriden pro hunter with a hawk adjustable brightness red dot sight and a silencer (thought pointless but i like the look however it actually makes a noticable difference in sound) got it for 180 which is probably a bit pricey but hey ho heres a picture

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...PICT1165-1.jpg

http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1166.jpg

Like the silencer - Like Ian I have an EB22 - I've never looked that hard for a silencer, but can I ask what make it is (if you know)? Ian - do you know about these cans - it looks like the barrel as some form of adapter on it (possibly permenantly attached)? - just wondering 'cause there isn't much room on the end of a std barrel for anything to be stuck on. Target misser does the adapter bit look permanent to you? cheers

[Ian]

Sorry dont know anything about fitting silencers. Never wanted one - love the noise an EB makes!

[TARGET-MISSER]

thanks this is the eb17 im really not sure but yeah theres a permanent fixture on it heres some pictures of the threaded fixture
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1167.jpg
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1171.jpg
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1173.jpg
ive only had a ten minute go currently but tomorrow i will hopefully be seting the red dot up and such

am i right in thinking i should store this with no bulb in as i got the impression in the shop
that it had been stored with a bulb with gas in it

[ashf9999]

thanks this is the eb17 im really not sure but yeah theres a permanent fixture on it heres some pictures of the threaded fixture
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1167.jpg
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1171.jpg
http://i796.photobucket.com/albums/y...2/PICT1173.jpg
ive only had a ten minute go currently but tomorrow i will hopefully be seting the red dot up and such

am i right in thinking i should store this with no bulb in as i got the impression in the shop
that it had been stored with a bulb with gas in it

Hmm, thanks for those photos target-misser. I've checked the manual (mines a Crossman branded, so relatively recently made, and looking at the impressed writing on yours I guess it is to) and nothing is mentioned about not storing with the CO2 in. I just do as the manual suggest, and put a small blob of suitable oil (I use the one for Brocock BACS) on the end of the cartridge before fitting it. I probably only need to change it every month or so, but haven't noticed the seals degrade so far. Thanks for the update also Ian.

[Troubledshooter]

Contact UK Neil for the silencer adaptors.
I have an EB20 with one fitted.

Lawrie Amatruda is the man to ask about leaving Co2 cylinders in guns.

[ashf9999]

Contact UK Neil for the silencer adaptors.
I have an EB20 with one fitted.

Excellent - thanks. I take it they are bonded on somehow?

[TARGET-MISSER]

ahh thanks for that need to get some co2 oil (forgot id ran out)

my silencers adapter looks to bonded on tbh

[Hollowpoint]

Ohh forgot about the eb, nice little gun heres mine:

http://i56.tinypic.com/a4pm46.jpg

[Ian]

Ohh forgot about the eb, nice little gun heres mine:

http://i56.tinypic.com/a4pm46.jpg

Ah, there it is again. Still love those grips Hollowpoint!

Just ordered these for my EB17
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k2...shedEBLeft.jpg

[Troubledshooter]

Excellent - thanks. I take it they are bonded on somehow?

No, not bonded, fixed by grub screw, but I daresay you could bond it if you wanted to.

[rockdrill]

The HW-45 isn't supposed to be a match pistol, the trigger isn't as wonderful as my FEG GPM-01 and it isn't as crisp as my Crosman Model 88 Skanaker, it isn't as precise as my DU-10 Condor, it's probably not as good as my Twinmasters or my Aim-X Atomic.

Nick,

Interesting your comment on the HW45 trigger, just by way of a different viewpoint, I have an HW45 that was given to me as a Christmas present in 1986 by my late father.

I have worked with the available adjustments on the trigger of this pistol and the result is a very precise, crisp, light two stage trigger that to be honest equalled the trigger release on the FWB 65/80 pistols that I have also owned (considerably better than the trigger on an Atomic I had as well).

The other thing, despite seeing an awful lot of shots since I got it, it still knocks out a 14.5 gr pellet at around 410fps.

[Rob M]

The HW45 is a great pistol, although powerful, it's not as powerful as some like to think, but it certainly is a high quality air pistol, accurate, very well made and is built of good materials. the Dual Power cocking is a nice feature. I have one and while I do enjoy it and respect it, I do find it very clinical and lacking in soul, I also think it's downright ugly. The top half is way out of proportion with the grip, and what styling touches it does have are pointless and unnecessary.

There are pistols with much less power, less well finished, and of a lower quality than the HW45 that are much more fun to shoot, much more satisfying, or just generally more enjoyable to shoot than the HW45, good though it is.