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    I have a feeling you may be in the same competition that our club is (CNTSA?). Our understanding is that this person is disabled (possibly 2 of them?) and shoots from a wheelchair/rest. Did he aggregate 996/997 or something stupid last season.

    One of our guys used to be in division one and does genuinely shoot 100s but not card after card. I think he aggregated around 990 and came 4th or 5th!

    It does seem to be political correctness gone mad when a wheelchair bound shooter with a rest is allowed to shoot in a free-standing unsupported rifle competition making it virtually impossible for an able bodied person following all the rules to compete.

    Benchrest sounds ideal!
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    Shame there is no 22lr might have joined in. Why not use the air pistol target may be easier to get hold of and they are a lot cheaper, I know hampshire use them.

    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave_samk11 View Post
    Shame there is no 22lr might have joined in. Why not use the air pistol target may be easier to get hold of and they are a lot cheaper, I know hampshire use them.

    David
    Ah, but there is. Full NSRA Rules, plus a 'special' category for non complying rifles (probably trigger weight, or physical weight) as long as its not supported with a sling etc and no special clothing other than a compliant glove.

    I should have put a thread up by now, but server issues and no search delayed. I'll get something up at the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrow_matt View Post
    It does seem to be political correctness gone mad when a wheelchair bound shooter with a rest is allowed to shoot in a free-standing unsupported rifle competition making it virtually impossible for an able bodied person following all the rules to compete.

    Benchrest sounds ideal!
    Yeah, a rested rifle in a standing competition seems excessive. Sitting isn't so bad - I've tried shooting from a wheelchair and I found myself to be less stable than when I'm actually standing because the position you're forced into actually precludes some of the positional features you can adopt when free-standing (even though it looks like it would be far more stable because you can supposedly only wobble from the waist up!).

    For example, most standing shooters thrust their waist forward to rest their elbow on. You can't do this in a wheelchair because leaning back will almost certainly end with you leaning on part of the chair or the wheel. This forces a very vertical torso position, which is actually less balanced than in standing when you can manipulate your position to bring the centre of balance back a bit (imagine trying to shoot when stood absolutely vertical with feet together - not apart. You're swaying all over the place!).

    However, if they're on a table/rest, my feeling would be that they should really only be participating in prone competitions where the use of a rest or table is not offering much more stability than being prone (or indeed less stability. My prone is better than my benchrest ).

    Hard to say without seeing the exemption and knowing the exact nature of the disability.
    Under international disability rules (i.e. the Paralympics), prone is approximated by resting on a table/bench from a sat position (either with sling, or rest depending on classification), whilst standing is approximated by sitting but being otherwise unsupported, which in terms of difficulty are quite good approximations to the able-bodied versions.
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