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  1. #1
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    Militia .177 Rifle

    Hi.
    I am after advice again.
    Been clearing a deceased pal's house since January and finally coming to an end.
    Found a virtual armoury of various guns which have gone to a local firearms dealer, mostly for destruction.
    Latest find is what I "think" could be a Militia Air Rifle .177 calibre, aroud 1910 date.
    But knowing absolutely nothing about such items (google helps me) I cannot be sure.
    There is no makers mark I can see on the rifle exept the number 824 on the barrel and cylinder and the word PRECISION on the hexagonal section at the rear of the barrel.
    It is a heavy robust bit of kit.
    A while ago I sold a Webley Premier here but it was returned due to not being of the expected standard (due to my ignorance of guns), I don't want that to happen again.

    So any help in finding out the facts on this "Militia" would be appreciated. I did not leave it with the dealer because I think it is worth more that 10-15 pounds. Any kind of valuation would be appreciated.

    See some photos that will be of help can be seen here:
    http://s1209.photobucket.com/albums/...GW0LDZ/Airgun/

    Bernard

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    Hi,
    Most of it would seem to be a "Precision" air rifle from the 1920s/30s. The "Precision" air rifle was made by Oscar Will who was later taken over by Wilhelm Foss, Venuswaffenwerk, Zelia-Mehlis, Thuringen, Germany. The reason I say most of it seems to be a "Precision" air rifle is that the one pictured in Hiller's Collectors Guide to Air Rifles, 4th edition has a different trigger guard and stock. If these have been replaced with parts from another gun and given the general condition I suspect it has little value but I have no knowledge of the survival rate of these and a poor example may attract a lot of interest if they are rare. Somebody will no doubt be along shortly with far more knowledge of this rifle.
    atb
    dogsbody

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    edbear2 Guest
    The stock is Lee Enfield, complete with trap in butt plate for the oil bottle etc.

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    Eddie's right of course, that stock is pure Lee Enfield. Looks good too. I don't think this type of rifle is very rare or particuarly collectable in this sort of non-original, well-used state. But they were nicely made and can be great fun to shoot. I would have thought it should make £30 or £40 and be worth the money.
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    Love the Lee stock idea .
    This guy sadly departed , obviously loved his guns ...
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