Is there room for CO2 in target/competition pistol shooting

[Gregory]

I cannot, never could except for perhaps a few years at the turn of the 19th / 20th century when small bore started to take off

We will always be a minority sport, but that doesnt mean we cant be a healthy minority. At the moment we face a real crisis, over the next 10 - 15 years club secretarys, committee members and league scorers / oganising officer are going to start retiring / dropping.

That means there are precious few youngsters entering the sport at the bottom and precious few experienced ex shooters / managers at the top of the sport.

Some clubs are thriving but they are few and far between. I think its shape up or ship out for shooting sports right now.

[Old Fart]

Gregory,

We were thrown a lifeline recently named NATTS, but what happened, the various organisations could not agree on a policy.

They all like to be in their own ivory towers wielding a little bit of power here and there, but are they bothered about "The Bigger Picture", I think not.

You know I am glad that I was born in 1949 because at least I had the chance and I grasped it with both hands to shoot all sorts of different firearms. What chance has anyone got in the next fifty years.

Sorry not to mention Co2

[Gregory]

Gregory,

We were thrown a lifeline recently named NATTS, but what happened, the various organisations could not agree on a policy.

They all like to be in their own ivory towers wielding a little bit of power here and there, but are they bothered about "The Bigger Picture", I think not.

You know I am glad that I was born in 1949 because at least I had the chance and I grasped it with both hands to shoot all sorts of different firearms. What chance has anyone got in the next fifty years.



Sorry not to mention Co2

well were well off topic now lets wrap it up and start a new thread, "is there any room for foreign b**tards" that should get a good debate going

[hwtyger]

Between 10 and about 22 degrees there ís no temperature issue for sure..And thats a cheapo Tau 7..
Temperature issues are só exagerrated!! They're nót crosmans, you know!
Near zero, than you might start to see some poi shift. Bút:
- thats what yr test shots are for, few clicks, solved
- is it surely the gun? I dont shoot well around zero either..
- pcp will react at these temps as well
99% of the CO2 matchpistols use cilinders. So shotcount is NOT an issue. Just fill up before a match. Thats what you do with pcp isnt it so why not with co2??
Filling CO2 cilinders is no problem at all. You can use simple fire bottles, or restaurant CO2 bottles.
ONLY issue in some countries, is the data on the cilinders. Bút thats equally true for older pcp's.
Another issue is changing weight/balance when co2 empties.

I really dont understand; they shot worldrecords with co2, won medals etc. Than why on EARTH should wé, normal shooting humans, nééd pcp?? We dont..We might wánt pcp, but dont nééd it.. If those pistols are good enough for world record, they're surely good enough for us normal match shooters arent they?
CO2 is by FAR good enough.

[Old Fart]

I have noticed over the years there's the NEW gun syndrome. Some shooters must have the latest piece of kit to give them an "edge", and they will spend a fortune doing this.

It does not matter what you shoot, be it shotgun, rifle or pistol they have to have the newest version. It doesn't matter if they don't shoot it as well because it's new but they need to get used to it, they might even shoot it better than the old one, sometimes they will not.

Manufacturers are really good at bringing new designs out, they have to be to stay in business, but does the average shooter shoot a higher score with this new gun, sometimes and I am talking about "Target" quality guns not plinking.

I enjoy all my shooting and just because somebody is a bit old fashioned it's no big deal.

[Gregory]

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

[magicniner]

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

Oh go on,
Keep it going, it's no fun without some unfounded opinions and invalid comparisons with cars which rusted & shed their subframes
Regards,
Nick

[derekm]

Between 10 and about 22 degrees there ís no temperature issue for sure..And thats a cheapo Tau 7..
Temperature issues are só exagerrated!! They're nót crosmans, you know!
Near zero, than you might start to see some poi shift. Bút:
- thats what yr test shots are for, few clicks, solved
- is it surely the gun? I dont shoot well around zero either..
- pcp will react at these temps as well
99% of the CO2 matchpistols use cilinders. So shotcount is NOT an issue. Just fill up before a match. Thats what you do with pcp isnt it so why not with co2??
Filling CO2 cilinders is no problem at all. You can use simple fire bottles, or restaurant CO2 bottles.
ONLY issue in some countries, is the data on the cilinders. Bút thats equally true for older pcp's.
Another issue is changing weight/balance when co2 empties.

I really dont understand; they shot worldrecords with co2, won medals etc. Than why on EARTH should wé, normal shooting humans, nééd pcp?? We dont..We might wánt pcp, but dont nééd it.. If those pistols are good enough for world record, they're surely good enough for us normal match shooters arent they?
CO2 is by FAR good enough.

WOT E SED

I give up! Co2 is great everybody should shoot Co2 anyone that doesnt is a show off. I'm off down the pub this aft to get the barman to fill up my lungs with the stuff and I'm off to spit pellets out from now on.

Hoo f*kn ray!

Sounds like you don't know much about decent beer either, if you want it serving with CO2!

Though my averages are very humble, my next pistol may well be a Steyr; but it will be CO2. As hwtyger says, it won't make any difference up to the highest level, and my £8 3kilo refill at home will last me forever. Why spend £200+ on a bottle and charging gear. Why have the club spend £2k to £3k on a compressor?

Those who want the latest, greatest, fine, but why knock perfectly good equipment and it's owners?

Not all CO2 target guns are rustic Russians.

The humble Tau is surprisingly good...... . (though not Russian)