Sussex Interclub HFT 2011 Round 3 - RESULTS

[biggles]

Hi all

What a splendid day hosted by the team at Ford. Splendid that is if you managed to figure out what that naughty little breezette was up to. I did NOT. Doh!!

Excellent turn out. Will have to look back to last year to see if it was a record session, but with 83 starting the course it must be close and it’s certainly beaten this year’s best by quite a margin.

Scores presented here in the usual format and with the usual request to please let me know (PM or email) if you spot any known or suspected errors/omissions.

Firstname Surname Club Class Score Handicap score % Badge (T)eam place
Darren Cruttenden Iden Fern O 57 57 100.0% Gold T
Spencer Fairman Oaks O 57 57 100.0% Gold T
Pat Fitzgerald Ford R 56 56 98.2% Gold T
Mike Byford Oaks O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
Jon Fairman Oaks O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
James Sellwood Horsham O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
Rob Appleyard Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold
Tony Archer Iden Fern O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Graham Cargan Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Spencer Hayward Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
John Herbert Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold
Eli McCullough Swallows J 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Andy Simpson Buxted O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Barry Blackham Ford O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Brian Buckell Buxted O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Bob Morris Ford O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Keith Bean Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Phil Bell Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Nick Botting Horsham O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Charles Coxsedge Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Dave Maun Visitor O 52 52 91.2% Silver
John McDonald Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Gary Morrisson Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Bob Pattenden Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Gavin Riley Iden Fern O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Bruce Stevenson Iden Fern O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Nigel Tostevin Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Chris Tyhurst Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Nigel Buchan Buxted O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Richard Chase Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Alan Clarke Oaks O 51 51 89.5% Silver
David Maun Visitor O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Darren Mitchell Buxted O 51 51 89.5% Silver
John Monger Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Rob Simpson Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Dave Skinner Iden Fern O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Ryan Stennar Buxted P 47 51 82.5% Gold
Jason Wells Buxted R 51 51 89.5% Gold
Steve Buckley Visitor O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Mike Burgess Swallows O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Maria Fitzgerald Ford O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Dean Harmes Horsham O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Alan Moss Swallows O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Charles Peal Oaks O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Sam Robinson Buxted O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Paul Hopper Ford O 49 49 86.0% Bronze
Mike Lycett Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze T
Tim Roberts Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze
Derek Watson Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze T
Richard Barnes-Austin Visitor O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
John Carliell Iden Fern O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Colin Davidson Iden Fern O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Megan Hull Visitor O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Josh Long Swallows P 44 48 77.2% Silver T
Dave Walden Swallows R 48 48 84.2% Silver T
Eric Bynum Horsham O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Richard Gallop Buxted O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Eddie Phillips Ford O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Stuart Peal Oaks R 47 47 82.5% Silver
Andrew Davidson Iden Fern O 46 46 80.7% Bronze
Sam Harmes Horsham P 42 46 73.7% Silver
Simon Williams Oaks R 46 46 80.7% Silver
David Ashby Oaks O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Terry Evans Visitor O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
James Parnell Horsham J 45 45 78.9% Silver
Mitchell Skinner Iden Fern J 45 45 78.9% Silver
Adam Stennar Buxted O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Barry Wintrip Buxted .22 45 45 78.9% Silver
John Woodhams Ford O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Sadie Davidson Iden Fern J 44 44 77.2% Bronze
Ben Davies Buxted O 44 44 77.2%
Gerry Jellicoe Swallows O 44 44 77.2%
Paul Hartt Horsham O 43 43 75.4%
Ben Lomas Visitor R 43 43 75.4% Bronze
Steve North Ford O 43 43 75.4%
Toby Deakin Swallows J 41 41 71.9% Bronze
Beth Hughes Swallows J 40 40 70.2% Bronze
John Coleman Ford O 38 38 66.7%
Daniel Long Swallows P 33 37 57.9% Bronze
Peter Bowron Ford O 35 35 61.4%
John Buchan Buxted O 33 33 57.9%
Colin Shevill Oaks R 20 20 35.1%

And the team scores for today (and the first two rounds). These are in Round 3 order, rather than the cumulative totals :

Club Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Total
Oaks 265 281 275 821
Iden Fern 257 278 266 801
Ford 257 274 264 795
Buxted 279 282 263 824
Horsham 269 256 255 780
Swallows 243 265 250 758

See you all soon …… for Round 4 at Buxted in just a fortnight’s time (29th May)

ATVB

Biggles

[MojoCrow]

Thanks Mike for the wailing wall that is the results. I haven't had to look that far down the list for my name in a long time.

Me no likey Fordie wind.

[shootingmad]

biggles please check my score I had 47 not 38
Eddie

hi all

what a splendid day hosted by the team at ford. Splendid that is if you managed to figure out what that naughty little breezette was up to. I did not. Doh!!

Excellent turn out. Will have to look back to last year to see if it was a record session, but with 83 starting the course it must be close and it’s certainly beaten this year’s best by quite a margin.

Scores presented here in the usual format and with the usual request to please let me know (pm or email) if you spot any known or suspected errors/omissions.

Firstname surname club class score handicap score % badge (t)eam place
darren cruttenden iden fern o 57 57 100.0% gold t
spencer fairman oaks o 57 57 100.0% gold t
pat fitzgerald ford r 56 56 98.2% gold t
mike byford oaks o 55 55 96.5% gold t
jon fairman oaks o 55 55 96.5% gold t
james sellwood horsham o 55 55 96.5% gold t
rob appleyard oaks o 54 54 94.7% gold
tony archer iden fern o 54 54 94.7% gold t
graham cargan oaks o 54 54 94.7% gold t
spencer hayward oaks o 54 54 94.7% gold t
john herbert oaks o 54 54 94.7% gold
eli mccullough swallows j 54 54 94.7% gold t
andy simpson buxted o 54 54 94.7% gold t
barry blackham ford o 53 53 93.0% gold t
brian buckell buxted o 53 53 93.0% gold t
bob morris ford o 53 53 93.0% gold t
keith bean buxted o 52 52 91.2% silver t
phil bell oaks o 52 52 91.2% silver
nick botting horsham o 52 52 91.2% silver t
charles coxsedge oaks o 52 52 91.2% silver
dave maun visitor o 52 52 91.2% silver
john mcdonald buxted o 52 52 91.2% silver t
gary morrisson buxted o 52 52 91.2% silver t
bob pattenden oaks o 52 52 91.2% silver
gavin riley iden fern o 52 52 91.2% silver t
bruce stevenson iden fern o 52 52 91.2% silver t
nigel tostevin oaks o 52 52 91.2% silver
chris tyhurst oaks o 52 52 91.2% silver
nigel buchan buxted o 51 51 89.5% silver
richard chase ford o 51 51 89.5% silver t
alan clarke oaks o 51 51 89.5% silver
david maun visitor o 51 51 89.5% silver
darren mitchell buxted o 51 51 89.5% silver
john monger ford o 51 51 89.5% silver
rob simpson ford o 51 51 89.5% silver t
dave skinner iden fern o 51 51 89.5% silver t
ryan stennar buxted p 47 51 82.5% gold
jason wells buxted r 51 51 89.5% gold
steve buckley visitor o 50 50 87.7% silver
mike burgess swallows o 50 50 87.7% silver t
maria fitzgerald ford o 50 50 87.7% silver
dean harmes horsham o 50 50 87.7% silver t
alan moss swallows o 50 50 87.7% silver t
charles peal oaks o 50 50 87.7% silver
sam robinson buxted o 50 50 87.7% silver
paul hopper ford o 49 49 86.0% bronze
mike lycett horsham o 49 49 86.0% bronze t
tim roberts horsham o 49 49 86.0% bronze
derek watson horsham o 49 49 86.0% bronze t
richard barnes-austin visitor o 48 48 84.2% bronze
john carliell iden fern o 48 48 84.2% bronze
colin davidson iden fern o 48 48 84.2% bronze
megan hull visitor o 48 48 84.2% bronze
josh long swallows p 44 48 77.2% silver t
dave walden swallows r 48 48 84.2% silver t
eric bynum horsham o 47 47 82.5% bronze
richard gallop buxted o 47 47 82.5% bronze
stuart peal oaks r 47 47 82.5% silver
andrew davidson iden fern o 46 46 80.7% bronze
sam harmes horsham p 42 46 73.7% silver
simon williams oaks r 46 46 80.7% silver
david ashby oaks o 45 45 78.9% bronze
terry evans visitor o 45 45 78.9% bronze
james parnell horsham j 45 45 78.9% silver
mitchell skinner iden fern j 45 45 78.9% silver
adam stennar buxted o 45 45 78.9% bronze
barry wintrip buxted .22 45 45 78.9% silver
john woodhams ford o 45 45 78.9% bronze
sadie davidson iden fern j 44 44 77.2% bronze
ben davies buxted o 44 44 77.2%
gerry jellicoe swallows o 44 44 77.2%
paul hartt horsham o 43 43 75.4%
ben lomas visitor r 43 43 75.4% bronze
steve north ford o 43 43 75.4%
toby deakin swallows j 41 41 71.9% bronze
beth hughes swallows j 40 40 70.2% bronze
john coleman ford o 38 38 66.7%
eddie phillips ford o 38 38 66.7%
daniel long swallows p 33 37 57.9% bronze
peter bowron ford o 35 35 61.4%
john buchan buxted o 33 33 57.9%
colin shevill oaks r 20 20 35.1%

and the team scores for today (and the first two rounds). These are in round 3 order, rather than the cumulative totals :

Club round 1 round 2 round 3 total
oaks 265 281 275 821
iden fern 257 278 266 801
ford 257 274 264 795
buxted 279 282 263 824
horsham 269 256 255 780
swallows 243 265 250 758

see you all soon …… for round 4 at buxted in just a fortnight’s time (29th may)

atvb

biggles

[blackscale]

Thanks Mike, must be a bind after such a long day!
We all appreciate it, as we all appreciate Richards regular imput!

Potentially 5 clubs are still in the running, extremely well shot by clubs with very few 'team players'.

Anything could happen now, back to the old nitty gritty!

Looooooooooooooooooooosers...(i know that was childish, fed up with being mature and sensible)

XX

[simmmo]

Potentially 5 clubs are still in the running, extremely well shot by clubs with very few 'team players'.

Anything could happen now, back to the old nitty gritty!

Looooooooooooooooooooosers...(i know that was childish, fed up with being mature and sensible, really getting beat year in year out by those little people really hurts, it makes me cry myself to sleep every night)

XX

Bit like the Earth will stop spinning. Just not this Season you Wanzjkerr. See how I made up a Polish word.

Monkey

[biggles]

biggles please check my score I had 47 not 38
Eddie

Sorry Eddie

Correction applied, together with recognition that you should have been offered a Bronze Badge.

I'm sure that Richard will cross your palm with such a reward at Buxted, if not before.

Biggles

[Bob P]

Bit like the Earth will stop spinning. Just not this Season you Wanzjkerr. See how I made up a Polish word.

Monkey

Oh I get it, Enjoy yourself, its later than you think

[Shadow]

Hi all

What a splendid day hosted by the team at Ford. Splendid that is if you managed to figure out what that naughty little breezette was up to. I did NOT. Doh!!

Excellent turn out. Will have to look back to last year to see if it was a record session, but with 83 starting the course it must be close and it’s certainly beaten this year’s best by quite a margin.

Scores presented here in the usual format and with the usual request to please let me know (PM or email) if you spot any known or suspected errors/omissions.

Firstname Surname Club Class Score Handicap score % Badge (T)eam place
Darren Cruttenden Iden Fern O 57 57 100.0% Gold T
Spencer Fairman Oaks O 57 57 100.0% Gold T
Pat Fitzgerald Ford R 56 56 98.2% Gold T
Mike Byford Oaks O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
Jon Fairman Oaks O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
James Sellwood Horsham O 55 55 96.5% Gold T
Rob Appleyard Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold
Tony Archer Iden Fern O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Graham Cargan Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Spencer Hayward Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
John Herbert Oaks O 54 54 94.7% Gold
Eli McCullough Swallows J 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Andy Simpson Buxted O 54 54 94.7% Gold T
Barry Blackham Ford O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Brian Buckell Buxted O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Bob Morris Ford O 53 53 93.0% Gold T
Keith Bean Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Phil Bell Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Nick Botting Horsham O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Charles Coxsedge Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Dave Maun Visitor O 52 52 91.2% Silver
John McDonald Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Gary Morrisson Buxted O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Bob Pattenden Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Gavin Riley Iden Fern O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Bruce Stevenson Iden Fern O 52 52 91.2% Silver T
Nigel Tostevin Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Chris Tyhurst Oaks O 52 52 91.2% Silver
Nigel Buchan Buxted O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Richard Chase Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Alan Clarke Oaks O 51 51 89.5% Silver
David Maun Visitor O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Darren Mitchell Buxted O 51 51 89.5% Silver
John Monger Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver
Rob Simpson Ford O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Dave Skinner Iden Fern O 51 51 89.5% Silver T
Ryan Stennar Buxted P 47 51 82.5% Gold
Jason Wells Buxted R 51 51 89.5% Gold
Steve Buckley Visitor O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Mike Burgess Swallows O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Maria Fitzgerald Ford O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Dean Harmes Horsham O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Alan Moss Swallows O 50 50 87.7% Silver T
Charles Peal Oaks O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Sam Robinson Buxted O 50 50 87.7% Silver
Paul Hopper Ford O 49 49 86.0% Bronze
Mike Lycett Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze T
Tim Roberts Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze
Derek Watson Horsham O 49 49 86.0% Bronze T
Richard Barnes-Austin Visitor O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
John Carliell Iden Fern O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Colin Davidson Iden Fern O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Megan Hull Visitor O 48 48 84.2% Bronze
Josh Long Swallows P 44 48 77.2% Silver T
Dave Walden Swallows R 48 48 84.2% Silver T
Eric Bynum Horsham O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Richard Gallop Buxted O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Eddie Phillips Ford O 47 47 82.5% Bronze
Stuart Peal Oaks R 47 47 82.5% Silver
Andrew Davidson Iden Fern O 46 46 80.7% Bronze
Sam Harmes Horsham P 42 46 73.7% Silver
Simon Williams Oaks R 46 46 80.7% Silver
David Ashby Oaks O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Terry Evans Visitor O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
James Parnell Horsham J 45 45 78.9% Silver
Mitchell Skinner Iden Fern J 45 45 78.9% Silver
Adam Stennar Buxted O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Barry Wintrip Buxted .22 45 45 78.9% Silver
John Woodhams Ford O 45 45 78.9% Bronze
Sadie Davidson Iden Fern J 44 44 77.2% Bronze
Ben Davies Buxted O 44 44 77.2%
Gerry Jellicoe Swallows O 44 44 77.2%
Paul Hartt Horsham O 43 43 75.4%
Ben Lomas Visitor R 43 43 75.4% Bronze
Steve North Ford O 43 43 75.4%
Toby Deakin Swallows J 41 41 71.9% Bronze
Beth Hughes Swallows J 40 40 70.2% Bronze
John Coleman Ford O 38 38 66.7%
Daniel Long Swallows P 33 37 57.9% Bronze
Peter Bowron Ford O 35 35 61.4%
John Buchan Buxted O 33 33 57.9%
Colin Shevill Oaks R 20 20 35.1%

And the team scores for today (and the first two rounds). These are in Round 3 order, rather than the cumulative totals :

Club Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Total
Oaks 265 281 275 821
Iden Fern 257 278 266 801
Ford 257 274 264 795
Buxted 279 282 263 824
Horsham 269 256 255 780
Swallows 243 265 250 758

See you all soon …… for Round 4 at Buxted in just a fortnight’s time (29th May)

ATVB

Biggles

This reminds me of primary school. A comes first all the way down to Z.

The golds for a team place ran out before He... came up. Primary school was a long time ago and I have paid an awful lot of taxes to improve the system since then!

Do the free transfer rules still apply?

Only joking Mike!

Shadow

[Big_Tel]

well done oaks good shooting spencer and everyone

[Ricky_boy]

im sure if taking a shot with your bolt open should result in a zero score not allowing you to take a secound shot is this not true ?

[simmmo]

im sure if taking a shot with your bolt open should result in a zero score not allowing you to take a secound shot is this not true ?

If the gun goes bang then its the end whatever the result. Like shooting the wrong target.

Open bolt. No pellet. etc.etc. people have been known to cheat so user error is the users fault and scored accordingly.

Equally having another shot at a target you have missed also is not allowed in a comp as one it might remove what is left of any paint thus disadvantaging the next few shooters and two you can work out why you missed which may help with your next target. Club days well thats another matter.

Andy

[Steve L]

im sure if taking a shot with your bolt open should result in a zero score not allowing you to take a secound shot is this not true ?

As Andy says, if it goes bang its a zero !
one advantage of having a steyr, if the cocking arm isn't fully forward it just clicks, pull cocking lever back, see pellet is still there & re-take shot

[Alegazmoz]

As Andy says, if it goes bang its a zero !
one advantage of having a steyr, if the cocking arm isn't fully forward it just clicks, pull cocking lever back, see pellet is still there & re-take shot

Quote: "Regardless of any circumstances ... such as forgetting to load a pellet, not shutting the loading bolt .. or if the trigger is pulled .. before you are locked on target, if the gun goes off the shot is considered as having been taken & will be scored accordingly. ... If this does happen, the competitor should make sure the pellet has left the gun by dry firing safely into the ground over the firing line with the consent of their shooting partners."

Employing the dry-fire facility available on some rifles, to cover up a firing cycle error, or circumventing the penaties normally incurred by shooters without this facility, could be interpreted as improper conduct and therefore sanctioned accordingly there are no grey areas on this issue, only one shot is permitted at a target whether it 'clicks' or 'bangs' .. once the trigger is pulled the gun has gone off and the shot should be considered as having been taken.

If anyone disagrees, I would suggest Sparky is consulted for a determination.
The dry-fire facility is not available to all shooters and should not be used to 'practice' during an event.

Gary.

[blackscale]

I thought the gun had to go bang!?
I have shifted position before, with my Walther and as i felt it could compromise the safety of other shooters (not in a serious way you understand, just precautionary) i have pulled the bolt / lever right back to render the rifle safe,(as opposed to using a safety, that my rifle doesn't have) then gone to take a shot and only realised the lever was still back after pulling the trigger.

Nothing happens, except a little click so i have realised my 'safety' is still on if you like, and cocked the rifle and taken a shot!....

When my Steyr was getting grubby.....sometimes the lever didn't 'click' forward and wouldn't fire..just a click freakin annoying but never thought it was illegal?

Can't remember when it last happened but i didn't take a zero....maybe i was wrong but i would not deduct a point unless the gun went bang for anyone else.

Tough one!??

Spongetasticallystupid XX

[Alegazmoz]

[QUOTE=blackscale;4949609](as opposed to using a safety, that my rifle doesn't have) then gone to take a shot and only realised the lever was still back after pulling the trigger.

Nothing happens, except a little click so i have realised my 'safety' is still on if you like, and cocked the rifle and taken a shot!....

....... but never thought it was illegal?

....maybe i was wrong but i would not deduct a point unless the gun went bang .....[/QUOTE]

I ... like most, don't have either a safety or a dry fire facility.
Once I pull the trigger, either inadvertently, the bolt's not fully home, or I've not loaded a pellet, I don't get a second chance.
I get an eyeful of air and a donut ..... a plate if I'm lucky and the pellet has left the barrel.
A rifle with a dry-fire function clicks rather than completes the cycle, but the error is evident regardless and I personally would have no qualms in awarding the appropriate score.
The only possible mitigation if uncertain, agree with your partners to dry-fire over the firing line 'before' taking the shot.
Afterwards is too late and a second attempt is not permitted.
A harsh attitude perhaps .. but undoubtedly fair.