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    when I need screws it involves a 26mile round trip so perhaps more than 25p each. My supplier is Norton Fasteners in Letchworth Herts. They are very helpfull, and have always identified the thread pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny Dipple View Post
    when I need screws it involves a 26mile round trip so perhaps more than 25p each. My supplier is Norton Fasteners in Letchworth Herts. They are very helpfull, and have always identified the thread pitch.
    Thanks Terry I will bear them in mind

    1/4 BSF (8/32") is the smallest common size understandably and these are available from everywhere you can think of.

    Why a manufacturer of a gun would choose to go that small step down from the common 8/32" to the little used 7/32" baffles me somewhat
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    Many ( if not most ) gunmakers did it. I formed the opinion that it was to prevent you repairing their products with readily available off the shelf stuff.
    I find a common size on guns is .203" (13/64") diameter. This is just .015" smaller than the 7/32" under discussion, and is a non-standard size, thus necessitating return to or spares from the maker. Unless you are a toolmaker! Also, BA threads are not uncommon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro-Express View Post
    Many ( if not most ) gunmakers did it. I formed the opinion that it was to prevent you repairing their products with readily available off the shelf stuff.
    I find a common size on guns is .203" (13/64") diameter. This is just .015" smaller than the 7/32" under discussion, and is a non-standard size, thus necessitating return to or spares from the maker. Unless you are a toolmaker! Also, BA threads are not uncommon.
    Well the 7/32 thread that my chap has run up is too tight in the gun so maybe it is this 13/64

    I too hold the same opinion that it's to make you spend more money

    Just spoken to my chap who will now grind a small piece off the open gap in the die to enable it to be closed down even further.

    I gave him a screw out of my 1949 Major and this fits the die - but loosely! This seems to bear out the 13/64 theory! Crafty beggers...
    Last edited by MattyBoy; 16-08-2011 at 02:43 PM.
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    screws

    would it not be quicker to weld/fill holes retap in metric /or more common size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basa View Post
    would it not be quicker to weld/fill holes retap in metric /or more common size.
    That should baffle the next owner!

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    Quote Originally Posted by basa View Post
    would it not be quicker to weld/fill holes retap in metric /or more common size.
    OUCH!

    You heathen!

    This is going to be a near-minter so I would hate to abuse it in that way
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    You could, of course, bite the bullet and just buy the right ones from Chambers and do away with all the pissin about!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattyBoy View Post
    Thanks Terry I will bear them in mind

    1/4 BSF (8/32") is the smallest common size understandably and these are available from everywhere you can think of.

    Why a manufacturer of a gun would choose to go that small step down from the common 8/32" to the little used 7/32" baffles me somewhat
    Matt

    From memory Cadet screws are a fairly standard size, you might just need to tighten the die down.... that or invest in a lathe

    Rich

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardH View Post
    Matt

    From memory Cadet screws are a fairly standard size, you might just need to tighten the die down.... that or invest in a lathe

    Rich
    Hi Rich, hope all is well

    My chap will tighten it down after cutting/grinding a bit out of the split and try again.

    I thought it would be a 30 minute job and it's turned into a saga

    "All the glorious trials of youth, dear boy" as Uncle Monty would say
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardH View Post
    Matt

    From memory Cadet screws are a fairly standard size, you might just need to tighten the die down.... that or invest in a lathe

    Rich
    I had a spare pair once...got a spare lathe for sale on here, if that helps

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    The problem with all machine tools is every five minute job seems to require £50 of extra tooling

    I sometimes wonder whether its better just to take out a chambers mortgage each time

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    Being BSA, it's always possible they are BCT - British Cycle Thread.
    The fore end screws for both Cadet and Major have the same part number, 16-717.
    The diameter of the screw thread is 3/16", but I can't find my pitch guage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troubledshooter View Post
    it's always possible they are BCT - British Cycle Thread.
    Most cycle thread is the same pitch 26 tpi, regardless of diameter. The larger sizes then go 20 tpi.
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