Recoilless Pistol

[laich71]

Hi, this is my first post and was hoping you guys could help me with a dilemma. I recently bought a Hw45 and find it fantastic to shoot. I am really impressed with the build quality and weight. On the basis of this I was about to buy a Hw75 as a recoilless pistol. However my friend suggested the aimx grand prix which he owns. I know they have different power plants but I just wanted recoilless. As they are about the same price, which is the better pistol. I do have a s410 so have charging gear but I like the idea of having hw75 as a stable mate for the hw45 and also the fact that it is always ready to shoot. Knowing me I will probably buy both eventually but which should I buy first.

I shoot at a club 10-100m, back garden plinking 10-15m and indoor 6-10m.

I can't find any comparison online probably because it's like comparing cheese with chocolate but would be interested if anyone owns or has used both.

[Aardys]

the hw75 i allways wanted one , but the price.....,.,., eek

[steve prime]

HW75 no contest or you could try either the HW40 or Gammo Compact as these do retail a lot cheaper than the HW75.

Good Luck,

Steve P

[Jim McArthur]

Or the Daisy 717 or 747: but it's a handful!

Jim

[JonRA]

I bought an HW45 3 months ago - it's beautifully made...but I can't shoot it very accurately when compared to a recoiless gun (that's putting it mildly - I am hopeless with it!).

I too wanted an HW75 but where I shoot (Lea Valley Airgun Club near Hertford - a really great club by the way) there is a monthly HW40 competition. I have just bought one and am amazed at the accuracy - a really excellent gun (and it has tru glo sights which I don't think have yet been introduced on the HW75). The HW40 might not be a classy as the HW75 but it is well worth checking out.

Cheers

Jon

[magicniner]

I bought an HW45 3 months ago - it's beautifully made...but I can't shoot it very accurately when compared to a recoiless gun (that's putting it mildly - I am hopeless with it!).

I too wanted an HW75 but where I shoot (Lea Valley Airgun Club near Hertford - a really great club by the way) there is a monthly HW40 competition. I have just bought one and am amazed at the accuracy - a really excellent gun (and it has tru glo sights which I don't think have yet been introduced on the HW75). The HW40 might not be a classy as the HW75 but it is well worth checking out.

Cheers

Jon

Download this PDF -

http://www.saveourguns.com/Ar_Marks_...rain_Guide.pdf

Have a good read then work through identifying what needs working on in your stance & technique - this will really improve your results with the HW-45 and give you a lot of good habits that will improve your results with other pistols,
ATB,
Nick

[blooregard]

I bought an HW45 3 months ago - it's beautifully made...but I can't shoot it very accurately when compared to a recoiless gun (that's putting it mildly - I am hopeless with it!).

Stick with it dude, once you can shoot it they are brilliant. I find the best way is to shoot mine is one handed with a very loose grip, just enough to hold the pistol but not tight enough to stop the pistol reacting to the shot.

[JonRA]

Thanks magicniner and blooregard - it's good to have some encouragment to revisit the HW45 and some useful advice on how to get the best out of it. I will give it a go.

Cheers

Jon

[Adam77K]

Or the Daisy 717 or 747: but it's a handful!

Jim

You haven't held an Aim-X Grand Prix, Jim!
Basically think: cut down PCP rifle, which it is really.

[air-tech]

Or get an FWB65 for around the same money as an HW75 but superior by far.

I own all of these guns BTW, and double-handed the HW45 is pretty accurate, well, around 1" at 10m accurate, I can't do any better with the 75 (single handed).

The 75 imho is a halfway house type affair, not a match pistol, not "just" a plinker. In particular, the grips, although they look good, are not particularly usefully shaped.

If you want to buy a gun for any specific purpose, the purpose for which one would feel that an HW75 is ideal, has not yet been invented. IMHO as always.

[2schimels]

The best one I have in my collection is a Baikal IZH 46M, an amazingly accurate pistol, but big bucks to purchase. If you want an accurate spring operated recoilless pistol,
I have an Original Model 6M with the Giss system. A very accurate pistol with brilliant trigger for £130 posted Special Delivery. Has adjustable wood target grips. Can email photos if required.

Barry

[Jim McArthur]

You haven't held an Aim-X Grand Prix, Jim!
Basically think: cut down PCP rifle, which it is really.

When I see many of these "pistols", they make me think of a rifle with the stock removed.

Jim

[Jim McArthur]

The 75 imho is a halfway house type affair, not a match pistol, not "just" a plinker. In particular, the grips, although they look good, are not particularly usefully shaped.

If you want to buy a gun for any specific purpose, the purpose for which one would feel that an HW75 is ideal, has not yet been invented. IMHO as always.

How about, simulating shooting a service automatic like the Colt Government, but without recoil?

Jim

[gasman1]

i recently bought a hw40. its a great little pistol. the weight is about right and it has a good trigger. at 10m its spot on. its recoiless as well. them brococks are nice for the money too.

[woodyrapid7]

Hi, this is my first post and was hoping you guys could help me with a dilemma. I recently bought a Hw45 and find it fantastic to shoot. I am really impressed with the build quality and weight. On the basis of this I was about to buy a Hw75 as a recoilless pistol. However my friend suggested the aimx grand prix which he owns. I know they have different power plants but I just wanted recoilless. As they are about the same price, which is the better pistol. I do have a s410 so have charging gear but I like the idea of having hw75 as a stable mate for the hw45 and also the fact that it is always ready to shoot. Knowing me I will probably buy both eventually but which should I buy first.

I shoot at a club 10-100m, back garden plinking 10-15m and indoor 6-10m.

I can't find any comparison online probably because it's like comparing cheese with chocolate but would be interested if anyone owns or has used both.

theres a falcon fn8 pistol on here for sale which will out shoot any of the others and its a good price