Tanfoglio Witness 1911

[pablowatercolor]

Interesting, I've never owned one but I am familiar with it. Why do you find them so disappointing?

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

[Jim McArthur]

I've got a real one. na na na na na!

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...n/IMG_4327.jpg

That's not the way to win friends on here.

A Colt .45 is about the only centerfire automatic pistol I'd ever consider owning. I owned a Government Model years ago, and it was THE only automatic pistol I ever owned that never jammed.

Jim

[Jim McArthur]

The thing about these guns is unless you live in the wilds of America or somewhere similar you would have to go to a firing range that could be miles away to use it.

With one of these is you have a garden you can just go out the back door and shoot away to your harts content

I live in urban America, I shoot airguns, and that's why.

That and the cost of cartridge ammo.

Jim

[pcusername]

That's not the way to win friends on here.

A Colt .45 is about the only centerfire automatic pistol I'd ever consider owning. I owned a Government Model years ago, and it was THE only automatic pistol I ever owned that never jammed.

Jim

Why is it they are called automatic or semi automatic,I always thought they were self loading if not capable of continuous fire.

[Jim McArthur]

Why is it they are called automatic or semi automatic,I always thought they were self loading if not capable of continuous fire.

Self-loading, auto-loading, or semi-automatic are all correct.

Automatic is not entirely correct, but most shooters use it anyway.

Jim

[blooregard]

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

Oh yes, remember it well, but I don't buy a CO2 replica expecting the same experience. It is however as close as you can legally get and allows you to shoot loads and loads cheaply and safely in your own garden which is awesome. I miss the smell and ejecting brass is undoubtedly really cool but a classicly styled automatic pistol with a couple of thousand rounds of ammo and gas is excellent for under a hundred quid.

I fully understand your points, but I recommend you give one a try if you get the chance, they are fantastic fun.

I always thought "Locked and Loaded" refered to a muzzle loader with a charged barrel and the action at half cock. What you describe is condition one, safety applied, a chambered round and a full magazine in place.

[Rayee]

The real thing is actually heavier when fully loaded (although it gets lighter as you shoot it heh heh... )

It's the whole thing - Seven rounds in the mag, jack one into the chamber, lock the slide, eject the mag and load an extra round to give you eight shots - that's what they mean by 'locked and loaded'. There is nothing to match the a heavy twisting recoil, muzzle flash, noise and smell, not to mention the occasional hot case down your neck (or scrabbling about for your spent boxer primed cases... )

Look up Massad Ayoob on YouTube if you want to see some real hangun action and see what I mean - he wrote 'In the Gravest Extreme'.

On a sensory level, the CO2 replica is simply underwhelming by comparison.

So shooting a real firearm is more of an event than a bb gun! next you'll be telling us the bullets go further!

[harvey_s]

Mind you at least lead usually only goes one way...
BB's have an amusing habit of 'returning to sender'

[whitevanman574]

Mind you at least lead usually only goes one way...
BB's have an amusing habit of 'returning to sender'

depends if you have a pellet catcher with a t shirt in


even re use the bbs

[mrto]

While I like the look of the replica and the way it functions I have to wonder what can be done with a steel BB travelling at just 300 fps from a smoothbore barrel??That said if Cybergun were to market an 8" Luger Parabellum replica I would definately buy one!

[blooregard]

What are you intending to do with it dude? If your hunting white Rhino then its not up to the job, if your blatting away at tin cans its perfect.

[magicniner]

I finally persuaded my RFD to get some in

Here's mine after a morning in the workshop

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/PICT0577.jpg

Here's where you can get the shiny bits

http://umarexboysclubforum.myfinefor...5982.php#45982

ATB,
Nick

[blooregard]

Awesome, looks very nice, could well be tempted.

[magicniner]

The mag extension button makes it easy to eject the mag without changing your grip, something I always find irksome if you can't do it on standard pistols,

- Nick

[magicniner]

Some evil chap on the UBC forum put an idea in my head that wouldn't go away, so instead of relaxing I did a little more Witness Tampering -

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q...s/PICT0580.jpg

- Nick